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Lord Commander Erus · 01-09-2008

it is when they're going to 5th edition whilst armies are still playing w/ 3rd edition rules. And by you saying Space Wolves are just a sub, well your Black Guardians and such were Ulthwe, and that's just a sub.. So why bellyache over them?

I'm sorry to soudn heated, but it's utter bull **** to advance another edition when two armies (one a major army) are so far behind in rules and models.

Wakim · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

it is when they're going to 5th edition whilst armies are still playing w/ 3rd edition rules. And by you saying Space Wolves are just a sub, well your Black Guardians and such were Ulthwe, and that's just a sub.. So why bellyache over them?

I'm sorry to soudn heated, but it's utter bull **** to advance another edition when two armies (one a major army) are so far behind in rules and models.

You do realise they could pull the same stunt they did with the Blood Angels, don`t you?

Launching a codex now and have the rules change in one year would be even worse for an army that didn`t have an update in ages won`t be that nice

People will build armies and see they have to change them rather fast :P

Icarus Athrasuriel · 01-09-2008

Wakim has a valid point, which brings us round to the fact that they're bringing this out so soon after releasing several codices.

Wakim · 01-09-2008

IF they`re really launching the 5th edition soon (notice the big "if") I say we should look at the chaos and ork dex`s for things that won`t be removed

Dragoon King · 01-09-2008

All in all, I like 4th ed., but assault needs some simplyfing, and vechiles need to be able to fire on the move. A tank's greatest strength is it's mobility, but the current rules kinda take that away. Here's to spending more money on armies that will probably never be finished!

Mart007 · 01-09-2008

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Black Guardians and such were Ulthwe

Yes, but I preferred the 4 th ed anyway! I did panic before hand though. Space Wolves are a sub, as much as Ulthwe are, but Ulthwe dont have there own dex and never have done.

I'm not getting at anyone, I'm trying to ease the panic, as it wont be that bad when it comes. The newer Dex's coming out are so balanced I dont think it matters which ruleset you use with them, 4th or 5th, yes there ar a few desperate dex updates needed, Space Wolves being one, but as I said it will still come at the same time regardless of 5th ed or not.

The relevence of them coming out with this ruleset is non existant in my book as the main rules are going to be better under 5th I'm sure.

Brother Warchild · 01-09-2008

Subs or not,finish what you started,they dont have to release a hole new book just do a update codex for armies or something.This is GW and i am not at all surprised.

Wakim · 01-09-2008

WHITE DWARF ARTICLE CODEX

It`s been done before, i`ll work again

Mart007 · 01-09-2008

The thing is I understand the frustration, our Eldar dex was way over due when it came out, all I'm saying, is 40K is ever evolving and as such is never going to please everyone all of the time at certain points.

And yes they should at least do a White Dwarf Dex for SW and DE just to tie them over.

Wakim · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Mart007

The thing is I understand the frustration, our Eldar dex was way over due when it came out, all I'm saying, is 40K is ever evolving and as such is never going to please everyone all of the time at certain points.

And yes they should at least do a White Dwarf Dex for SW and DE just to tie them over.

But you still don`t know for sure if the 5th will come out before the DE Dex :P

Mart007 · 01-09-2008

Exactly! But rumours are strongly pointing at this year! And of course GW are going to deny as they wont want to put people off buying 4th ed for now!

Wakim · 01-09-2008

A wise Wakim once said: Rumors are called rumors for a reason.

masterofweirdness · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Wakim

A wise Wakim once said: Rumors are called rumors for a reason.

How many times has stitch been wrong?

When stitch says something, its usually confirmed (because the person from whom she has gotten her info has "allowed" her to share this info...)

Baron Spikey · 01-09-2008

There are a few codexes that are still running off their 3rd edition:

Witch Hunters
Daemon Hunters
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Space Wolves
Imperial Guard

But thats it, and with the way the new codexes have been written hinting at them being compatible with future rule changes I wont worry too much if those armies aren't done by the time 5th edition rolls around (if it does appear close to summer time) because they WILL get done, and only the Tau, Space Marines, and Tyranids would need an update as well what with the other armies already being 'finished' (even then the 'Nids and Tau would only need a very minor update at worst)

Templar Mikeel · 01-09-2008

Think of it this way. Would you rather have a 4th ed Space Wolf codex, and then have them release 5th edition, or would you rather wait a bit longer and have a 5th edition Space Wolf Codex and a 5th edition rulebook?

Cirative · 01-09-2008

And what about Cities of Death? It was published in 2006...so do you guys think it will be carried over to 5th edition, or will it become obsolete?

Templar Mikeel · 01-09-2008

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And what about Cities of Death? It was published in 2006...so do you guys think it will be carried over to 5th edition, or will it become obsolete?

Unless the rules for moving and cover are radically changed in 5th edition I think it should carry over.

Lord Commander Erus · 01-09-2008

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Originally Posted by Templar Mikeel

Think of it this way. Would you rather have a 4th ed Space Wolf codex, and then have them release 5th edition, or would you rather wait a bit longer and have a 5th edition Space Wolf Codex and a 5th edition rulebook?

Quite simple. They should have made all the 4th edition codexs, then went to 5th edition. With the changes supposedly being so slight as to not notice codex wise (though I know they'll make new ones, money hungry bastards)... Why not make them first anyway?

Mart007 · 01-10-2008

Well I've said how I feel, I cant wait, I love a big GW release! (I'm just a big kid) You'll all be excited when it comes round really! lol

hairyyahoo · 01-10-2008

totally. every time a new rule set is rumoured for release some people feel the need to go all drama queen and threaten to sell up everything and quit the game. sorry if that offends anyone, but it's the way i see it. then once they have had the chance to look at the new book they always, invariably, say that it's much better than the old one and just get on with the game.

i do see what's being said about the oldest codex's though, would have been nice to have had them before 5th ed. but we can hope that they'll be the first ones updated under the new system right?

Lord Commander Erus · 01-10-2008

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i do see what's being said about the oldest codex's though, would have been nice to have had them before 5th ed. but we can hope that they'll be the first ones updated under the new system right?

We can also hope I grow wings and start leaving a quarter under your pillow fo revery mini you paint like a twisted tooth fairy.. But it ain't likely.

SteveBerenyi · 01-10-2008

i think that DE, SW, BA, DA and all other off shoots will be the last to be updated..... again.

hey while we are wishing we could wish for squats agaiin!!!!

Wakim · 01-10-2008

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i think that DE, SW, BA, DA and all other off shoots will be the last to be updated..... again.

hey while we are wishing we could wish for squats agaiin!!!!

I`d also aperciate the Skaven thingies

And if they don`t give us squats then at least they should introduce Demiurge minis

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Lord Commander Erus First Chaplain Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,395 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 170 Thanked 342 Times in 223 Posts Blog Entries: 5	it is when they're going to 5th edition whilst armies are still playing w/ 3rd edition rules. And by you saying Space Wolves are just a sub, well your Black Guardians and such were Ulthwe, and that's just a sub.. So why bellyache over them? I'm sorry to soudn heated, but it's utter bull **** to advance another edition when two armies (one a major army) are so far behind in rules and models. __________________ "Truth is infinite. It is defined by our perception of the facts; therefore we can never know absolute truth, we can only guess at it. A man who knows he has done no wrong needs no redemption, regardless of the views of others. The truth is what he believes it to be. A man who knows he has done wrong can only be redeemed when he chooses to forgive himself." -Lord Inquisitor Balkoth Black Saints Adeptus Astartes Chapter

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Icarus Athrasuriel Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Candy Cane Forest of LIES!! Or Glasgow. Posts: 966 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 18 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Wakim has a valid point, which brings us round to the fact that they're bringing this out so soon after releasing several codices. __________________

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Wakim Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,101 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts Blog Entries: 2	IF they`re really launching the 5th edition soon (notice the big "if") I say we should look at the chaos and ork dex`s for things that won`t be removed __________________

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Dragoon King Destruction Manifest Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Loyall, Kentucky Posts: 2,653 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 70 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts Blog Entries: 1	All in all, I like 4th ed., but assault needs some simplyfing, and vechiles need to be able to fire on the move. A tank's greatest strength is it's mobility, but the current rules kinda take that away. Here's to spending more money on armies that will probably never be finished! __________________ “Nothing you can lose by dying is half so precious as the readiness to die, which is a man’s charter of nobility.” George Santayana.

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Brother Warchild Lodge Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 2,510 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 653 Thanked 261 Times in 199 Posts	Subs or not,finish what you started,they dont have to release a hole new book just do a update codex for armies or something.This is GW and i am not at all surprised. __________________ Check out the Librarium and the Battlefield My Stuff ( links ) Lupercal! A truescale Luna Wolf's W.I.P Wolves of Fenris A Space Wolve's W.I.P Death Guard, Land Raider W.I.P Legion of the Damned W.I.P Tricks of the Trade

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Wakim Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,101 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts Blog Entries: 2	WHITE DWARF ARTICLE CODEX It`s been done before, i`ll work again __________________

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Mart007 Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,008 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 102 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	The thing is I understand the frustration, our Eldar dex was way over due when it came out, all I'm saying, is 40K is ever evolving and as such is never going to please everyone all of the time at certain points. And yes they should at least do a White Dwarf Dex for SW and DE just to tie them over. __________________ Follow my log (dont worry, it's a project log) http://www.40kterra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3223

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Mart007 Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,008 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 102 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Exactly! But rumours are strongly pointing at this year! And of course GW are going to deny as they wont want to put people off buying 4th ed for now! __________________ Follow my log (dont worry, it's a project log) http://www.40kterra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3223

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Wakim Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,101 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts Blog Entries: 2	A wise Wakim once said: Rumors are called rumors for a reason. __________________

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Baron Spikey Captain Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,571 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 59 Thanked 111 Times in 91 Posts	There are a few codexes that are still running off their 3rd edition: Witch Hunters Daemon Hunters Necrons Dark Eldar Space Wolves Imperial Guard But thats it, and with the way the new codexes have been written hinting at them being compatible with future rule changes I wont worry too much if those armies aren't done by the time 5th edition rolls around (if it does appear close to summer time) because they WILL get done, and only the Tau, Space Marines, and Tyranids would need an update as well what with the other armies already being 'finished' (even then the 'Nids and Tau would only need a very minor update at worst)

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Cirative Corporal Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 492 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 36 Thanked 33 Times in 19 Posts	And what about Cities of Death? It was published in 2006...so do you guys think it will be carried over to 5th edition, or will it become obsolete? __________________ <img border="0" src="http://sigs.planetsidestats.net/sig.php?world_id=15&char_id=640717">

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Mart007 Lieutenant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,008 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 102 Thanked 93 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Well I've said how I feel, I cant wait, I love a big GW release! (I'm just a big kid) You'll all be excited when it comes round really! lol __________________ Follow my log (dont worry, it's a project log) http://www.40kterra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3223

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	i think that DE, SW, BA, DA and all other off shoots will be the last to be updated..... again. hey while we are wishing we could wish for squats agaiin!!!! __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4