Confirmed Information on DA.

[Ikarus]

Officially confirmed by Exarch of ordofanaticus (they had promo codex)

Deathwing Information:

x5 man squad only, swith out to LC or TH for free, Heavy Flamer is 5pts, ML is 20, AC is 30(can only have one)

Fearless
215 for squad (43 pts each)

Death wing asault: up to half rounded up held in reserve may deepstrike in 1st turn...hold 4 in reserve and 2 come in auto 1st turn, the other two are in normal reserve.

Belial:MoDW
he is 130 pts, fearless, and has a MC power sword, that's it! Did a points comp. w/ a Marine Grand master, it's 130 also, so I guess he gets fearless and the more termi squads thing for free.

Scout Manstopper Rounds:
12" str 4 Assault 2




Master of Ravenwing: 205 points
power armour, ad. mantle, iron halo, (yes, 2 relics!) raven sword (mc PW), jetbike (tl storm bolter, plasma cannon), rites of battle, RW Co. Standard (all RW within 12" reroll morale & pinning, +1 attack)

can exchange for Speeder for free, looses iron halo & sword, and his stats are changed to a vehicles(no wounds, in, att, etc...) shield of night gives him av 14 in front and side, has TL hvy bolter and AC w/ BS 5.



Quote: Can the Land Speeder Tornado still take a multi-melta/assault cannon combo? Can Attack Bikes still mount a heavy bolter? Any other weapon options added to either unit?


yes: switch out HB to MM for free, any speeder can upgrade to Flamer+10 or AC+35; the bike squad upgrade speeder is HB AC with no upgrades available
yes: aout HB, switch to MM for +50 no

[The Drop Zone]

I for one find this pretty good ill know more wed when i get my advanced copy

however i hope all you assault cannon crybabies are happy now

I am now worried about wether this is a chapter price increase or wether this gets handed down for all space marines if it is then the marines just got hosed again those of you who whine about marines just got your wish

[Ikarus]

Originally Posted by The Drop Zone

I for one find this pretty good ill know more wed when i get my advanced copy

however i hope all you assault cannon crybabies are happy now

I am now worried about wether this is a chapter price increase or wether this gets handed down for all space marines if it is then the marines just got hosed again those of you who whine about marines just got your wish

Haha yeah.

Assault cannons, I feel that DA Deathwing might be a waste to play. Lets go back the Lysander wing. What? My terminators come on all the same turn? 2x assault cannons each? Hacks!

I think they should stop hurting SM. CSM on the otherhand is the buff side, you pull SM down, well CSM gets more and more stronger.

But it is always interesting to see what GW does to the rules...

[Inquisitor Rosenadel]

Wow, this is crazy. No generic Characters? As in, no custom Captain/Master, etc.? Woah!

[The Drop Zone]

Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

Wow, this is crazy. No generic Characters? As in, no custom Captain/Master, etc.? Woah!

i dont buy that part simply from the standpoint then why have them in the army box and have generic librarians in the same box 2 plus 2 isnt equaling 4 here fellas

[Ikarus]

Originally Posted by The Drop Zone

i dont buy that part simply from the standpoint then why have them in the army box and have generic librarians in the same box 2 plus 2 isnt equaling 4 here fellas

Actually let me delete that overview, it was quoted from someone else, so that information maybe be wrong (and is probably wrong)

[Brother_Ambrose]

1 ass-can? NOOOOOOO! those bastards...I bought a second $50 box of termies just so I could get a second! >.< is it 1 heavy weapon, or 1 ass-can?

[experiment 626]

so you can't have 2 assault cannons in each termie squad... considering what the dark angels are gaining, that's hardly a loss! (the spliting squads trick is heidiously nasty!)

the assault cannons is a huge mistake anyways and really, the players themselves only have eachother to blame!
as happened to alot of the over-powered eldar options, *cough*sustained assault*cough*, they got nerfed in their new 'dex. min/maxing and massive amounts of assault cannons were a problem in marine armies, so the dark angels have been nerfed to reflect the fact that there is a lack of balance!

and of corse dark angels are getting interrogator chaplains, librarians and generic masters/grandmasters + special characters... we've already seen some of the models!

cheers!

[Khadhar'phak]

If I'm honest, the whole 1 assault cannon thing is fairer (heresy, I know). I also play guard as well as my Marines, so I know how it feels to be on the recieving end of move and fire capable infantry (albeit 2+ save infantry). Lets not forget that the Dark Angels are going to get their special army versions anyway. An entire Termy army is always going to be nasty, with or without the futuristic gatling guns