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Old 03-12-2008   #1 (permalink)
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Is there rumours, or indeed confirmation / truth that Gav Thorpe is being fired or is leaving GW ?? Can anyone shed any light ? :P
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from what I've heard its certainly the case, already know Andy Chambers was fired (but from what I was told by the guy at GW it was because he was being a complete idiot)
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oh my , what did he make again?
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Default Re: gav Thorpe

Shame, I liked Gav's work....

WAIT... DIDN'T HE WRITE FULGRIM?!

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Default Re: gav Thorpe

Andy Chambers was the man behind 3rd Edition (obviously he was part of a team, but he was the head of THAT team).

According to what the guy heard (and he doesn't say something unless he's 99% sure its true), Mr Chambers was told by the Board of Executives something he didn't like so he said that 40K wouldn't be anything without him and if the Executives didn't do what he wanted 40K would be f****d- so they fired him.
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and that, gentleman, is what egos get you..
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Andy Chambers was the man behind 3rd Edition (obviously he was part of a team, but he was the head of THAT team).

According to what the guy heard (and he doesn't say something unless he's 99% sure its true), Mr Chambers was told by the Board of Executives something he didn't like so he said that 40K wouldn't be anything without him and if the Executives didn't do what he wanted 40K would be f****d- so they fired him.
... I think he was thinking ..... I have no idea what he was thinking. You dont go into the board room and say something like that unless you ...
A) Want to get fired
B) Hit the lottery
C) Want to get fired
D) Never tried unemployment and want to feel the experience
E) All of the above
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Default Re: gav Thorpe

it's 100% true, gav is gone... (rules-wise this is very likely a good thing!) he'll probably stay on as a black library writer though, in a similar way that graham mcneil has.

as for mr/chambers, well, the way the techpriests told me when he left, "it wasn't surprising he got the boot!"

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Default Re: gav Thorpe

Both Andy Chambers & Gav Thorpe left on amicable terms (according to the GW Glasgow manager, who was down at head office the day after one of the leaving parties), there was no Firing done, it just happened that they both decided to leave GW to work on different projects at a similar time.

One of them, i can't remember which, has moved to Mongoose Publishing, who amoung other things, make the Starship Troopers miniature battle game.
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That'll be Andy Chambers moving there... as he wrote the game system for starship troopers.
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WAIT... DIDN'T HE WRITE FULGRIM?!
that would be Graham McNeil
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Cheers ^_^

GAv thorpe also was the one that brought out the new Vampire Counts army book.
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Well I'm not gonna be crying myself to sleep... if were on about the guy Im thinking of his articles in White Dwarf were pretty poor....
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Well I'm not gonna be crying myself to sleep... if were on about the guy Im thinking of his articles in White Dwarf were pretty poor....
gav can write some realy great stuff and then, there's his "other" writings... such as the absolutely silly ending he wrote for the storm of chaos a few years back...

of corse, i still bear some ill-will for the fact gav did ruin the novel 'angels of darkness'...

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not read that one, won't bother now!

tried reading Grudgebearer a while ago - some say its good, i couldn't get past the 50 page mark

...and i finished the Wine of Dreams!
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Well I think it was a time for change at GW any way. I mean fresh meat might actually bring some new and interesting stuff to the Game. I am hoping that maybe some new blood will be able to mix things up and prehaps even get WD back up to the point where I can stand subscribing to it again. I had a subscription that started around issue 80 and I kept it through 160 or so... ever sense then I glance through the pages at my local gaming store and it is just a crap load of advertisements, poorly written articles, and the battle reports are tiny if they are even in there.

*Crosses Fingers* I hope against hope, wish against wish, that this will not bite us in the arse.

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the thing is that it isn't fresh blood, it is just those that started at the bottom of the chain at GW and worked up as each head of development has been decapitated.

so often it seems that they make the same mistakes as the predecessor as that is just how they have been taught
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From all the grumbling, it definately seems like GW needs something new
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the thing is that it isn't fresh blood, it is just those that started at the bottom of the chain at GW and worked up as each head of development has been decapitated.

so often it seems that they make the same mistakes as the predecessor as that is just how they have been taught
well, admitidly, the xenos 'dexes are pretty damn good both in terms of balance, distinctiveness and the ability to easily theme your army in endless ways...

the chaos 'dex has it's issues, (thanks gav!) while the imperial codicies are;
a) dark angels is easily the best one
b) guard is getting old and has some very dumb things like being able to make a supposide drop troop regiment w/huge amounts of armour?!!
c) black templars is garbage... you only play templars because you're 100% dedicated to them as their rules absolutely blow!
d) witch hunters is at least playable and competitive with certain combinations which border on broken...
e) daemonhunters is ****... thank-you mr chambers for screwing over us poor radicals who can't even use our own 'dex to make a non-screwed army!!!
f) space marines are beyond broken thanks to the traits and the insanely over-powered ass-can 'o doom...

i doubt they'll get anyone new to the company to fill gav's now vacent spot, rather i hope they get someone who will actually listen to the honourable tech-priests!

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gav resigned immediatly of V day. i hate that....i really like the clwas of chaos series!
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gav thorpe leaving is a bit of a bummer. sure he had his off days but he's been with the comppany for such a long time he's become like a familiar face. it's always a shame when such a big name moves on to pastures greener.
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