For You Space Puppy Fanatics - 40K Terra

SteveBerenyi · 4 Weeks Ago

From Bell Of Lost Souls:

Space Wolves
We also have word of the following Codex:Space Wolves updates:

The Codex is into testing

Blood Claws are armed with bolt pistol, ccw, frag, and krak and can take special weapons or powerfist/power weapons. They have Furious Charge instead of berserker charge. Minimum squad size is 10 and they can go as high as 20. WS is now 4 but BS stays at 3.

Grey Hunters are armed like Chaos marines (bolter, bolt pistol, ccw, grenades). No more True Grit, but Counter Charge stays for this unit. They can take an assortment of special weapons or powerfist/power weapons. Squad Leader is a wolf guard with options like a vet sergeant from Codex

ark Angels.

Jump pack Blood Claws are a separate unit entry now.

Wolf Guard are split into two squad types - terminators and power armour.

Wolf scouts can infiltrate or come on from any table edge.

Long Fangs stay as is. Probably picking up a bolt pistol and ccw in addition to their big guns.

Dreads and ven dreads go down to WS4, but Bjorn is back as a special character. Unknown if they can be HQ units.

Hope this raises some spirits.

Mart007 · 4 Weeks Ago

WOOT no more True Grit, did you hear that Krom!!! GONE!

SteveBerenyi · 4 Weeks Ago

but you see that they now have BP,CCW and Bolter right mart?

Mart007 · 4 Weeks Ago

Yes, but, let me enjoy that, I bloody hated true Grit! There armoury isnt that much different! Kroms favourite unit Grey Hunters and "True Grit" his favorite phrase!

Warmaster Romulas · 4 Weeks Ago

i guess with those weapons they could do away with true grit
but true grit was made for SW
im so torn between the 2

SteveBerenyi · 4 Weeks Ago

he still gets the 2 CC attacks

Mart007 · 4 Weeks Ago

Who gave you a wet nose and bushy tale! No steve, finish your Chaos first!

SteveBerenyi · 4 Weeks Ago

me? wolves? HELL NO!

munkey joe paints · 4 Weeks Ago

NICE...... The true grit thing....Isnt that the same BASICLY as they have with the Bolter Pistol and ccw? just a name change?

Im kinda lookin forward to it, but change is always scary.

Darighaaz_king · 4 Weeks Ago

i always thought ALL marines should have true grit as standard, it just seems right for their supposedlyt immense strength to be able to use bolters as pistols.

nice to see the wolves getting some love

Lord Erak Grimnar · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by munkey joe paints

NICE...... The true grit thing....Isnt that the same BASICLY as they have with the Bolter Pistol and ccw? just a name change?

Im kinda lookin forward to it, but change is always scary.

No it means we can get 3 attacks on the charge instead of jsut 2 as you loose the extra attack for chargng if using true grit.

Not to keen on the blood claws loosing their cool rule. Also not to keen on the sergeant thing as that means I have to buy more models and basically makes wolf guard useless besides as terminators. But yer its fluffy.

munkey joe paints · 3 Weeks Ago

Thanks for that Grimnar!!! So they are in effect MORE nasty.....Sweet!

experiment 626 · 3 Weeks Ago

hmmmm... no big surprises really...

the grey hunters getting the same basic gear as chaos marines have means true grit is pointless!

nice to see the blood claws getting the true 'mob size', plus furious charge = waaaay nastier than +2A! (S5/I5? oh god yes!!!)

interesting to see how they deal with wolf scouts & the power armoured wolf guard... the latter i can see gaining pretty much the same style of options as say, chaos chosen in that they'll get an obscene amount of juicy power toy/fist & similar upgrades.
wolf scouts though... they're tricky because right now i hate them with a passion! really, to me it's a bit too good how they can come on behind the enemy. (luckily right now they're also a 0-1 choice, but that will change as GW is doing away with all those silly restrictions...)

hopefully wolf lords, rune/wolf priests will get to keep at least one or two of the cool upgrades like the wolf tooth necklace, wolf pelt and such... those little 'lucky charm' type upgrades really help keep the true flavour of the wolves!

cheers!

hairyyahoo · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by steve

Minimum squad size is 10 and they can go as high as 20

crapdammit!!! now i'll have to add 2 more claws to my pack

good thing the other changes more than make up for the extra work i'll have to put in

blood claws with furious charge? make mine a double!

and it'll be nice to see bjorn back on the table again, but where's njal?

Lord Erak Grimnar · 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by experiment 626

hmmmm... no big surprises really...

the grey hunters getting the same basic gear as chaos marines have means true grit is pointless!

nice to see the blood claws getting the true 'mob size', plus furious charge = waaaay nastier than +2A! (S5/I5? oh god yes!!!)

interesting to see how they deal with wolf scouts & the power armoured wolf guard... the latter i can see gaining pretty much the same style of options as say, chaos chosen in that they'll get an obscene amount of juicy power toy/fist & similar upgrades.
wolf scouts though... they're tricky because right now i hate them with a passion! really, to me it's a bit too good how they can come on behind the enemy. (luckily right now they're also a 0-1 choice, but that will change as GW is doing away with all those silly restrictions...)

hopefully wolf lords, rune/wolf priests will get to keep at least one or two of the cool upgrades like the wolf tooth necklace, wolf pelt and such... those little 'lucky charm' type upgrades really help keep the true flavour of the wolves!

cheers!

oh is that what it does that is so sweet. Also whats wrong with the scouts thats the coolest and most scouty rule ever

Krom_stormbrow · 3 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveBerenyi

From Bell Of Lost Souls:

Space Wolves
We also have word of the following Codex:Space Wolves updates:

The Codex is into testing

Blood Claws are armed with bolt pistol, ccw, frag, and krak and can take special weapons or powerfist/power weapons. They have Furious Charge instead of berserker charge. Minimum squad size is 10 and they can go as high as 20. WS is now 4 but BS stays at 3.
At last... they have finally seen sense. Thank you GW

... never understood why my claws could hit for sh*t

Grey Hunters are armed like Chaos marines (bolter, bolt pistol, ccw, grenades). No more True Grit, but Counter Charge stays for this unit. They can take an assortment of special weapons or powerfist/power weapons. Squad Leader is a wolf guard with options like a vet sergeant from Codex

ark Angels.
Again... Disappointed at the loss of true grit, but there is an alternative light at the end of my tunnel

... watch out Mart

Jump pack Blood Claws are a separate unit entry now.
Meh... never use them any way. Who cares? completely un fluffly inclusion

Wolf Guard are split into two squad types - terminators and power armour.
Sparks of inspiration at GW?

Wolf scouts can infiltrate or come on from any table edge.

Long Fangs stay as is. Probably picking up a bolt pistol and ccw in addition to their big guns.
Woopy doo a bolt pistol... what about meat shields?

Dreads and ven dreads go down to WS4, but Bjorn is back as a special character. Unknown if they can be HQ units.
Yay and nay. I want my WS/BS 5 dread. hits on 2 all gone. Oh well. My dread does nack all anyway.

Hope this raises some spirits.
Spirits suitably diluted. Got an extra shot of scotch with the GH and BC but had a gallon of ginger ale poured on to take the edge away. Mdels better be good.

What about the Rune priest?
What about the Iron Priest?
What about the wolf priest?
What about the wolf lord?
What about my ass?
What about assault cannons in termie squads?
What about? what about?...

Drax · 3 Weeks Ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krom_stormbrow

Again... Disappointed at the loss of true grit, but there is an alternative light at the end of my tunnel

why disappointed? from a fluff aspect? essentially what they now have is ubergrit!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krom_stormbrow

What about the Rune priest?
What about my ass?

what about it indeed?

Krom_stormbrow · 3 Weeks Ago

???? I know it's better. Just i liked true grit... as it's basically how all the books read a bolter to be used.

Drax · 3 Weeks Ago

i actually cannot recall a single story reference to Space Wolves using their bolters in this manner - sure there was a statement preceeding the rules, but as for the fictional writing...

Brother Warchild · 3 Weeks Ago

Just Glad i have so many BC's in my army,just cant wait fo the rules to come out.

Dan296 · 3 Weeks Ago

grey hunters dont NEED true grit if they have two close combat attacks!!! you still can shoot the pistol and get another attack from charging, AND another attack with two close combat weapons!!! its pointless to keep it.
kind of strange though, because space wolves were the first to have true grit.

Lord Erak Grimnar · 3 Weeks Ago

You know what I would love to see his definatly a fix to the overpriced blood claw jumpers but more would be more powers for the rune priest I know Space Wolves hate phycics but I would see it more sharmatic which fits.

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