Colonel "Iron Hand' Straken - 40K Terra

Darkon-Gore · 04-25-2007

Found on pg in Codex: Catachans (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/4...xcatachans.pdf)

"Wargear: Plasma pistol, shotgun and unique bionics (See special Rules)."

This would be great if they seperated into weapons and wargear piles. As the Unique bionics says it counts as a PF.

So does this mean it also acts as a single handed weapon (to claim +1 A for 2 one handed weapons) as it is his hand? or Is all his weapons "wargear" therefore NEVER claiming the +1 A?

My interpretation is to view straken like Yarrack, he could claim the +1 A even though he has more weapons they he should ie. storm bolter, laspistol and Power Claw.

What are your interpretations?

kid_happy · 06-11-2007

I can't say definately but we play it as though Strakken is equipped with two hth weapons (plasma pistol and power fist). the added benefits of rhtis fist being he strikes with initiative and it gives him the 5+ save.

06-11-2007

KH, if you mean he strikes at full init. value w/ a powerfist, you are off there. I have learned, the hard way, that if it says 'counts as power/chain/whatever' then it is striking last. But otherwise, i'd say he does get the +1 attack for 2 on handed weapons. The unique bionics count as a powerfist, therefore treat him as if the wargear 'unique bionics' were literally nothing more than a power fist put on the model with a different name.

Hope that helped!

kid_happy · 06-11-2007

I'm confused then...

What about the line :"The arm counts as a power fist but devices in the chest unit allow him to strike using his Initiative value instead of going last."

I read that to mean the power fist rules were being modified as the pistol would be used at regular initiative. If there has been a thread about thhis already point me to it and I'll catch up there.

Thanks!

Icarus Athrasuriel · 06-12-2007

It would mean just that. If it says that he strikes with his I, then he is not striking last, obviously.

The Horror in the Shadows · 06-14-2007

Colonel "Iron Hand' Straken was one great character, Put him against Monsterous Creatures and watchem die

As with Kid, the way he's always being used here is that his "unique bionics" and his Plasma pistol Added the +1 attack

04-25-2007	#1 (permalink)
Darkon-Gore Conscript Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Colonel "Iron Hand' Straken Found on pg in Codex: Catachans (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/4...xcatachans.pdf) "Wargear: Plasma pistol, shotgun and unique bionics (See special Rules)." This would be great if they seperated into weapons and wargear piles. As the Unique bionics says it counts as a PF. So does this mean it also acts as a single handed weapon (to claim +1 A for 2 one handed weapons) as it is his hand? or Is all his weapons "wargear" therefore NEVER claiming the +1 A? My interpretation is to view straken like Yarrack, he could claim the +1 A even though he has more weapons they he should ie. storm bolter, laspistol and Power Claw. What are your interpretations? __________________ Though my guards may sleep and ships may rest at anchor, our foes know full well that big guns never tire. +++ Lufgt Huron, The Tyrant of Badab +++ CHED FIRST, HORDE SECOND, SELF LAST

06-11-2007	#4 (permalink)
kid_happy Conscript Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm confused then... What about the line :"The arm counts as a power fist but devices in the chest unit allow him to strike using his Initiative value instead of going last." I read that to mean the power fist rules were being modified as the pistol would be used at regular initiative. If there has been a thread about thhis already point me to it and I'll catch up there. Thanks! Last edited by kid_happy; 06-11-2007 at 09:20 PM.

06-12-2007	#5 (permalink)
Icarus Athrasuriel The Emperor's Yesman Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Candy Cane Forest of LIES!! Or Glasgow. Posts: 902 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 8 Thanked 27 Times in 14 Posts	It would mean just that. If it says that he strikes with his I, then he is not striking last, obviously. __________________ My favourite quotes: "There is something infantile in the presumption that somebody else (parents in the case of children, God in the case of adults) has a responsibility to give your life meaning and point." ~Richard Dawkins "Man, when perfected, is the best of animals, but when separated from law and justice, he is the worst of all." ~Aristotle "Must not all things at the last be swallowed up in death?" ~Plato

06-14-2007	#6 (permalink)
The Horror in the Shadows Trooper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Cns, OZ Posts: 75 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Colonel "Iron Hand' Straken was one great character, Put him against Monsterous Creatures and watchem die As with Kid, the way he's always being used here is that his "unique bionics" and his Plasma pistol Added the +1 attack __________________ Ave Dominus Nox To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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06-11-2007	#2 (permalink)
kid_happy Conscript Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 13 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I can't say definately but we play it as though Strakken is equipped with two hth weapons (plasma pistol and power fist). the added benefits of rhtis fist being he strikes with initiative and it gives him the 5+ save.

06-11-2007	#3 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus.. Guest Posts: n/a	KH, if you mean he strikes at full init. value w/ a powerfist, you are off there. I have learned, the hard way, that if it says 'counts as power/chain/whatever' then it is striking last. But otherwise, i'd say he does get the +1 attack for 2 on handed weapons. The unique bionics count as a powerfist, therefore treat him as if the wargear 'unique bionics' were literally nothing more than a power fist put on the model with a different name. Hope that helped!