Counting Wounds - 40K Terra

jus10 the angel · 03-06-2007

So, being the commander of the greatest and most loyal chapter of Space Marines, I had somthing come up...

The glorious death company has an ability to ignore an ingury during battle (and succom to it after the fight).

Say my DC is in CC (whomever would be foolish enough to get in CC with them is beside the point), they take two wounds, fail the armor save, then pass the ignore ingury test.

Say the DC turns around and only inflicts 1 wound on the opposing player's unit.

Who wins? None of my guys fell from a wound, but they still took it. Is the ignore wound ignored for determining who wins? theres nothing in either book that clerifies.

experiment 626 · 03-06-2007

the blood angels win combat by 1 wound in your example...
the special 'feel no pain' save is just that - an addition save. as in your example you pass both rolls, no death company models are actually killed, therefore no actual 'wounds' are caused! (because they were saved!)

basically, when determining combat results and wins, you only ever count the actual wounds that models take - saved wounds are discounted!

cheers!

jus10 the angel · 03-06-2007

thats what i'm saying, they DID take a wound, they just ignore the pain.

i guess if you look at it like an additional armor save its clear...but with the fluff around it it gets murkey.

Inquisitor Rosenadel · 03-06-2007

I think the idea is if the model is killed, it counts (except for multi-wound models, of course) as the kind of wound they mean. A model removed from play, or when a character has his wounds reduced when combat and saves and all that are said and done.

jus10 the angel · 03-06-2007

thats what i figured. i was just wondering what everybody else thought.

03-06-2007	#1 (permalink)
jus10 the angel Trooper Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Counting Wounds So, being the commander of the greatest and most loyal chapter of Space Marines, I had somthing come up... The glorious death company has an ability to ignore an ingury during battle (and succom to it after the fight). Say my DC is in CC (whomever would be foolish enough to get in CC with them is beside the point), they take two wounds, fail the armor save, then pass the ignore ingury test. Say the DC turns around and only inflicts 1 wound on the opposing player's unit. Who wins? None of my guys fell from a wound, but they still took it. Is the ignore wound ignored for determining who wins? theres nothing in either book that clerifies. __________________ "By the blood of Sanguinius!" 2007 Record: Wins - 2 Loses - 2 Ties - 0 WP: 0.500 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-06-2007	#2 (permalink)
experiment 626 Filthy, Dirty Radical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto! Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 20 Thanked 188 Times in 139 Posts	the blood angels win combat by 1 wound in your example... the special 'feel no pain' save is just that - an addition save. as in your example you pass both rolls, no death company models are actually killed, therefore no actual 'wounds' are caused! (because they were saved!) basically, when determining combat results and wins, you only ever count the actual wounds that models take - saved wounds are discounted! cheers! __________________ "Who are you to question my methods?! A 'Puritan' is simply a coward who hides behind a veil of pretended faith and denounces his loyal brother as a traitor out of simple jealousy!" - Inquisitor Odion To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-06-2007	#3 (permalink)
jus10 the angel Trooper Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thats what i'm saying, they DID take a wound, they just ignore the pain. i guess if you look at it like an additional armor save its clear...but with the fluff around it it gets murkey. __________________ "By the blood of Sanguinius!" 2007 Record: Wins - 2 Loses - 2 Ties - 0 WP: 0.500 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

03-06-2007	#4 (permalink)
Inquisitor Rosenadel Extremis Diabolus Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in the shadows. Posts: 1,281 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 55 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts	I think the idea is if the model is killed, it counts (except for multi-wound models, of course) as the kind of wound they mean. A model removed from play, or when a character has his wounds reduced when combat and saves and all that are said and done. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Lord of Fluff and Blood Angels Herald of Nurgle "I wield my power with the Emperor's Authority. Those who would say that I am 'radical' merely have minds too small and impotent to realize all the weapons at their disposal. Do not question my methods on account of these so-called 'Puritans'." -Inquisitor Mathias Rosenadel

03-06-2007	#5 (permalink)
jus10 the angel Trooper Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thats what i figured. i was just wondering what everybody else thought. __________________ "By the blood of Sanguinius!" 2007 Record: Wins - 2 Loses - 2 Ties - 0 WP: 0.500 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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