Giving Space Marines more than one Veteran Skill... - 40K Terra

Baron Spikey · 08-07-2007

I was writing a list for my Penitent Knights chapter and I came across a curious thing- a Command Squad can (for Xpts) take a veteran skill of either Tank Hunters, Furious Charge, or Infiltrate for each marine. But if the entire army has traits which allows a skill to be taken by the command squad (Trust Your Battle Brothers being the one im struggling with) does that mean you can efffectively have Counter-Attack, True Grit AND Furious Charge/etc.

Of course this scenario could apply to almost any squad- Devastators with Infiltrate and Tank Hunters anyone?

Anyway- 2 skills? loop hole in the rules or intended?

Khemri_Daemon · 08-07-2007

It seems like it must have been intended, hell, there's a Trait which gives you two skills. I don't see any foul play here. Although, said Tank Hunting, Infiltrating Devastators will be an awfully large points sink...

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 08-10-2007

im pretty sure its intended, though its hardly gonna for cheap.

my own Angels of Censure command squad has furious charge and true grit, and are lead by a chaplain and has the full compliment of power weapons/fists. theyre pretty good in combat (on the charge mostly, but the true grit makes then goot at receiving too), but them + their LRc are pretty expensive.... i like them though!

i think its cool that squads in certain armies can hae two skills, but what with current army trends i wouldnt expect skills to be a major part of the next SM codex, whenever its made (unfortunately)

experiment 626 · 08-11-2007

a unit can have as many skills as you have traits that allow them... you simply can't take a skill more than once obviously!
so for example, you can't give an assault squad furious assault via the 'blessed be the warriors' trait, and then give it to them again via the 'no mercy, no respite' trait for a double bonus...

keep in mind too that for the past few years, chaos players have had the same option in regards to their skills! (actually, provided they're not marked in any way, chaos marine units can have every skill if you really want!)

so no, i feel that the multiple skills is indeed intended. it's just horribly expensive adding a +40% increase to the cost of every marine in those squads!

cheers!

08-07-2007	#1 (permalink)
Baron Spikey Adeptus Primarch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere between Crewe and Stoke in the Midlands Posts: 1,947 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 73 Thanked 146 Times in 114 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Giving Space Marines more than one Veteran Skill... I was writing a list for my Penitent Knights chapter and I came across a curious thing- a Command Squad can (for Xpts) take a veteran skill of either Tank Hunters, Furious Charge, or Infiltrate for each marine. But if the entire army has traits which allows a skill to be taken by the command squad (Trust Your Battle Brothers being the one im struggling with) does that mean you can efffectively have Counter-Attack, True Grit AND Furious Charge/etc. Of course this scenario could apply to almost any squad- Devastators with Infiltrate and Tank Hunters anyone? Anyway- 2 skills? loop hole in the rules or intended? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.* Battles Updated Daily (Enter via Insignia)

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Khemri_Daemon Trooper Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Posts: 112 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	It seems like it must have been intended, hell, there's a Trait which gives you two skills. I don't see any foul play here. Although, said Tank Hunting, Infiltrating Devastators will be an awfully large points sink... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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experiment 626 Filthy, Dirty Radical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto! Posts: 2,731 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 20 Thanked 188 Times in 139 Posts	a unit can have as many skills as you have traits that allow them... you simply can't take a skill more than once obviously! so for example, you can't give an assault squad furious assault via the 'blessed be the warriors' trait, and then give it to them again via the 'no mercy, no respite' trait for a double bonus... keep in mind too that for the past few years, chaos players have had the same option in regards to their skills! (actually, provided they're not marked in any way, chaos marine units can have every skill if you really want!) so no, i feel that the multiple skills is indeed intended. it's just horribly expensive adding a +40% increase to the cost of every marine in those squads! cheers! __________________ "Who are you to question my methods?! A 'Puritan' is simply a coward who hides behind a veil of pretended faith and denounces his loyal brother as a traitor out of simple jealousy!" - Inquisitor Odion To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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08-10-2007	#3 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 0 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	im pretty sure its intended, though its hardly gonna for cheap. my own Angels of Censure command squad has furious charge and true grit, and are lead by a chaplain and has the full compliment of power weapons/fists. theyre pretty good in combat (on the charge mostly, but the true grit makes then goot at receiving too), but them + their LRc are pretty expensive.... i like them though! i think its cool that squads in certain armies can hae two skills, but what with current army trends i wouldnt expect skills to be a major part of the next SM codex, whenever its made (unfortunately)