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Old 08-06-2007   #1 (permalink)
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Can the Land Raider Crusader be armed with both a Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter and its Multi Melta? It states in its upgrade section that the LRC may take a PMSB. Does that replace the MM? Can it take both? The LRC has two cupolas...
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Can the Land Raider Crusader be armed with both a Pintle Mounted Storm Bolter and its Multi Melta? It states in its upgrade section that the LRC may take a PMSB. Does that replace the MM? Can it take both? The LRC has two cupolas...
then i'd say it can take two pintle mounts.
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yep, it can take both. however, the peices for making the PMSB are used in the multi-melta, so you will need the parts for it from another imperial vehicle sprue.
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i would say though that if 12 twin linked bolters, a twin linked assault cannon and a multi melta don't do enough damage to the target unit, paying those extra points for a storm bolter isn't really points well spent.

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i would say though that if 12 twin linked bolters, a twin linked assault cannon and a multi melta don't do enough damage to the target unit, paying those extra points for a storm bolter isn't really points well spent.

just my opinion though
considering the high pts cost of the crusader, that pintle-storm bolter will still count towards avoiding additonal 'weapon destroyed/immobilised' results as it's a S4 gun and thus counts as an additional 'defensive weapon'! (even if your crusader has no guns, as long as it's still mobile then it's still a scoring unit, so it basically buying an extra 'weapon destroyed' result your opponent needs to get through...)

and it's only 6 twin-linked bolters total between the sponsons! mind you, i highly doubt many space marine players would complain if they up'ed it to 12?!!LOL

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considering the high pts cost of the crusader, that pintle-storm bolter will still count towards avoiding additonal 'weapon destroyed/immobilised' results as it's a S4 gun and thus counts as an additional 'defensive weapon'! (even if your crusader has no guns, as long as it's still mobile then it's still a scoring unit, so it basically buying an extra 'weapon destroyed' result your opponent needs to get through...)

and it's only 6 twin-linked bolters total between the sponsons! mind you, i highly doubt many space marine players would complain if they up'ed it to 12?!!LOL

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While we're on the subject... If the tank is within 12" of a unit.. Can the bolters not 'rapid fire'?
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lol - 12... 6... not much difference there then!

note to self: this is the 3rd time you have doubled the number of twin linked bolters on a crusader. learn that it is 6 total before krom gets his crusader feilded or you will be sorry!
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While we're on the subject... If the tank is within 12" of a unit.. Can the bolters not 'rapid fire'?
don't you wish it were so!

IIRC, you cannot chose to avoid rapid fire anymore... if you're within 12" and shoot a rapid fire type weapon, you fire both shots. (so as to stop people from trying to save their plasma gunners by choosing only 1 shot against non-meq enemies!)

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don't you wish it were so!

IIRC, you cannot chose to avoid rapid fire anymore... if you're within 12" and shoot a rapid fire type weapon, you fire both shots. (so as to stop people from trying to save their plasma gunners by choosing only 1 shot against non-meq enemies!)

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Where does it say that? The rapid fire entry in the BBB says you 'may' choose to. If that's the case, then pistoleers have do so as well...
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