thunderhammer vs superheavy - 40K Terra

Timber-WoIf · 01-29-2008

ok seriously. a guys termie taps my bainblade with a thunderhammer. doesn no damage. but, because of the thunderhammers special rule, he says my whole bainblade was shaken. i was like, wtf? got around the hing because i had that bainblade formation, but still. does a thunderhammer actually shake an entire superheavy?

Dragoon King · 01-29-2008

Can't help ya here, as I don't get the hammers.

Word Bearer 81007 · 01-29-2008

even though it doesn't make a whole lot of since but yes

Torquemada Coteaz · 01-29-2008

Sure it does. Powerful energy fields + the intense harmonic waves created in the vehicle when struck by hammer and field = a lot of ringing in the drivers ears and such.

Not to mention the flare / energy discharge would definitely nuke the sensors for a while.

Dan296 · 01-29-2008

when something doesnt make sense in 40k, try looking at it from a different angle. in this case, a crewmen of said tank.
but first, the thunder hammer-
1-it creates a huge noise and flash when it hits something. its designed to do that.
2-its being weilded by a mammoth of a man, made even more mammoth by the termy armour.
3-have you ever hit a sheet of metal with a rock? now hit it with a hammer the size of you

now all of this together, and then the crewmens heads arent that far away from the hit, and youre going to be dazed for a little while. and that little while is enough lull in shooting so that the thing cant fire.

i had that same sort of "wait a minute, what?" thing when i realized you could kill a land raider with a harliquins kiss. at first glance, it just doesnt make sense.

Torquemada Coteaz · 01-29-2008

Aye. At first glance.
Everything (almost) CAN be MADE to make sense

So don't worry about it.

If everything was left up to conventional sense, lasguns wouldn't scratch astartes armour, Drop pods would become orbital strike with carrying capacity, and a sister with faith would become yet another smeared crater in the face of a gargantuan squiggoth.
And where's the fun in that?

Timber-WoIf · 02-05-2008

so then i guess i should get some termies to deal with my friends titans then...

SteveBerenyi · 02-05-2008

hell yeah! just for the fun of it. watch and laugh as a SINGLE termie lord with a t-hammer makes that Warhound useless for the rest of the game LMAO

masterofweirdness · 02-05-2008

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Originally Posted by SteveBerenyi

hell yeah! just for the fun of it. watch and laugh as a SINGLE termie lord with a t-hammer makes that Warhound useless for the rest of the game LMAO

lol... that is funny...

assuming the termie lord doesn't die... very fast.

captain sicaius · 02-06-2008

it is a unfair sounding rules but i can unterstand why it could

Astrotrain · 02-06-2008

No guys.I have the super heavy rules in my hands and ONE yes just One weapon
may not shoot.

"gun crew shaken-ONE WEAPON MAY NOT SHOOT NEXT TURN"

Timber-WoIf · 02-06-2008

But the thunderhammer causes "crew stunned" i dont think theres any specifications on what it does to superheavys, but, even though that result is not on the superheavy hit table, it was still argued that the result applies to the vehicle.

Ides · 02-06-2008

Without an impartial referee with an Apoc rulebook, this will be difficult enough to sort out, but gun crew shaken sounds about right. Opponents almost always choose the baneblade cannon anyway.

Hell, a guy in power armour tapped my baneblade with a powerfist and destroyed it.

Astrotrain · 02-06-2008

If you have FW materals,check it out. "crew stunned" on a super heavy results in one weapon chosen by the enemy can't shoot on the next turn.Just like "immobilized" means the super heavy losses D3 movement.Do you realiy think that loud bang on the side of the tank is going to effect the crew members on the other side,While a loud engine is running and the crew is wearing head sets?

01-29-2008	#1 (permalink)
Timber-WoIf Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thunderhammer vs superheavy ok seriously. a guys termie taps my bainblade with a thunderhammer. doesn no damage. but, because of the thunderhammers special rule, he says my whole bainblade was shaken. i was like, wtf? got around the hing because i had that bainblade formation, but still. does a thunderhammer actually shake an entire superheavy? __________________ "If brute force doesn't solve your problem, then you're not using enough."

01-29-2008	#2 (permalink)
Dragoon King Destruction Manifest Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Loyall, Kentucky Posts: 2,653 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 70 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy Can't help ya here, as I don't get the hammers. __________________ “Nothing you can lose by dying is half so precious as the readiness to die, which is a man’s charter of nobility.” George Santayana.

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Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,730 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 55 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy Sure it does. Powerful energy fields + the intense harmonic waves created in the vehicle when struck by hammer and field = a lot of ringing in the drivers ears and such. Not to mention the flare / energy discharge would definitely nuke the sensors for a while. __________________ My Site: www.freewebs.com/ejshtuffz All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: here Picture/Art Blog: here (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: here Crusaders Fluff: here (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] http://www.freewebs.com/jason-lastword/index.htm

01-29-2008	#5 (permalink)
Dan296 Adeptus Arbrites Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 36 Posts	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy when something doesnt make sense in 40k, try looking at it from a different angle. in this case, a crewmen of said tank. but first, the thunder hammer- 1-it creates a huge noise and flash when it hits something. its designed to do that. 2-its being weilded by a mammoth of a man, made even more mammoth by the termy armour. 3-have you ever hit a sheet of metal with a rock? now hit it with a hammer the size of you now all of this together, and then the crewmens heads arent that far away from the hit, and youre going to be dazed for a little while. and that little while is enough lull in shooting so that the thing cant fire. i had that same sort of "wait a minute, what?" thing when i realized you could kill a land raider with a harliquins kiss. at first glance, it just doesnt make sense.

01-29-2008	#6 (permalink)
Torquemada Coteaz The Grammar Cop Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: the TC personal =][= estate on Encaladus Posts: 1,730 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 55 Thanked 25 Times in 18 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy Aye. At first glance. Everything (almost) CAN be MADE to make sense So don't worry about it. If everything was left up to conventional sense, lasguns wouldn't scratch astartes armour, Drop pods would become orbital strike with carrying capacity, and a sister with faith would become yet another smeared crater in the face of a gargantuan squiggoth. And where's the fun in that? __________________ My Site: www.freewebs.com/ejshtuffz All of my stuff are there. Current Projects, etc. General Wargaming Guide: here Picture/Art Blog: here (BT) Asomrof: Crusade Fluff: here Crusaders Fluff: here (BT) "2k7-2k8 NHL Season" Crusade (i.e. Ottawa Senators) [WIP] http://www.freewebs.com/jason-lastword/index.htm

02-05-2008	#7 (permalink)
Timber-WoIf Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy so then i guess i should get some termies to deal with my friends titans then... __________________ "If brute force doesn't solve your problem, then you're not using enough."

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy hell yeah! just for the fun of it. watch and laugh as a SINGLE termie lord with a t-hammer makes that Warhound useless for the rest of the game LMAO __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4

02-06-2008	#10 (permalink)
captain sicaius Primer Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: wales Posts: 36 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy it is a unfair sounding rules but i can unterstand why it could __________________ as are bodies are armed with adamantium, our souds are protected with loyalty,as our bolters are charged with death for the emperors enemies, our thoughts charged with wisdom. as our ranks advance, so does our devotion, for are we not space marines? are we not chosen of the emperor, his loyal servants unto death chaplain fergas nils

02-06-2008	#11 (permalink)
Astrotrain Trooper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 88 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy No guys.I have the super heavy rules in my hands and ONE yes just One weapon may not shoot. "gun crew shaken-ONE WEAPON MAY NOT SHOOT NEXT TURN" __________________ I post here too- http://www.unicorncottagecompany.com/phpbb2/index.php

02-06-2008	#12 (permalink)
Timber-WoIf Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 43 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy But the thunderhammer causes "crew stunned" i dont think theres any specifications on what it does to superheavys, but, even though that result is not on the superheavy hit table, it was still argued that the result applies to the vehicle. __________________ "If brute force doesn't solve your problem, then you're not using enough."

02-06-2008	#13 (permalink)
Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,099 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 19 Thanked 49 Times in 47 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy Without an impartial referee with an Apoc rulebook, this will be difficult enough to sort out, but gun crew shaken sounds about right. Opponents almost always choose the baneblade cannon anyway. Hell, a guy in power armour tapped my baneblade with a powerfist and destroyed it. __________________ The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used.

02-06-2008	#14 (permalink)
Astrotrain Trooper Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New York Posts: 88 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: thunderhammer vs superheavy If you have FW materals,check it out. "crew stunned" on a super heavy results in one weapon chosen by the enemy can't shoot on the next turn.Just like "immobilized" means the super heavy losses D3 movement.Do you realiy think that loud bang on the side of the tank is going to effect the crew members on the other side,While a loud engine is running and the crew is wearing head sets? __________________ I post here too- http://www.unicorncottagecompany.com/phpbb2/index.php

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