Space marine Anatomy ?!-- - 40K Terra

End.GAME · 12-29-2007

I was just surfin around the web.. And i came across this site.
Check it out! I believe he made several of Black library/Black frame's Book cover Art.
His concepts are pretty cool

And his artworks are astonishing.

http://www.philipsibbering.net/WH40K...startes%5D.htm

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"Notes: This is more 'Background Marine' or 'Movie Marine' - more over on theItalian and German GW sites - for some reason not the the UK GW site?"

kenshin620 · 12-29-2007

coolio

Ides · 12-29-2007

Nice. But the muscle expansion doesn't actually correspond to the bone structure. I'm not sure if Marines would still have pectorals to the same extent as regular folk, but given the limitations of the modelling program he seems to be using, it's understandable.

He also leaves out the fact that the ossmoddula doesn't make the bones grow faster by itself, rather it changes the bones structure, using ceramic chemicals in the marine's diet to harden them beyond normal human resistance. In the process he describes, marines would be subject to a great deal of muscle entropy and infection unless constantly supervised and would need to be drip fed their food. Given the constant 'at war' state of all chapters and the relentless training programs this takes up time and personnel that the Chapter should not under any reasonable set of circumstances be able to spare.

I'm also not sure about the muscle proportions used. Marines undergo a great deal of modification to both muscle mass and density, as well as bone composites, so the skeletal structure would be markedly different to that of an unaugmented human, probably in the upper torso and skull, as remarked in the Horus Heresy Books.

More here:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/initiation/1/

Size-wise its fairly good, though for some reason I always thought of SM as taller... For a lot of what they have, they would need to scale up the human frame an awful lot, especially since the standard human genome and bone structure is tailored towards the 6ft line. Beyond that to any great extent is considered abnormal, and markedly dangerous for most people. While taller people can cover more ground they aren't generally faster (especially in the 7' bracket) and their ankles and lower backs would be under considerable stress.

If the joint can't cope with that, the Ossmoddula would need to reinforce that somehow to cope with the additional stresses of the ceramic chemicals, and for the kind of speed and coordination marines are supposed to exhibit outside of their power armour, the amount of testosterone running through the marine's system would be downright imposing in the least.

Warmaster Romulas · 12-29-2007

nice a little off but nice anyway
i cant remember a 7'6" basketball player
most only get to 7'2" maybe a little bigger
any way nice

End.GAME · 12-29-2007

Nice way to put it all in there ides !

Rellik · 12-30-2007

wow very intresting

Warmaster Romulas · 12-30-2007

the main thing i disagree on is the terminator marine
a marine of the first company is not any bigger than a newer marine
they are not orks the older and more battle hardend they get doesnt make them bigger

Four20edLogan · 12-30-2007

Interesting

Wakim · 01-02-2008

But... but i thought Space Marines DID get a litle bit bigger as time passed

at least in the first years(decades, centuries).

Rellik · 01-02-2008

i didnt think they would weight that much.

Wakim · 01-02-2008

Weigh has strange ways :P

It`s an illusion actually

Just because i`m really tall and not that buffed people think i weigh 3/4 - 4/5 of how much i actually do

And muscle weighs more than fat :P

AND SM have a LOT denser bones and i`m pretty sure their muscle tisue should be also denser than normal

Rellik · 01-02-2008

yeah i can see that now with there bones and muscle growth how heavy they would get. how much does there armour weigh?

Wakim · 01-02-2008

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Originally Posted by burnwitme

yeah i can see that now with there bones and muscle growth how heavy they would get. how much does there armour weigh?

A lot

Sorry, i just had to do that

Seriously though, i don`t think it was ever mentioned

Rellik · 01-02-2008

ha ha. i would guess with armour on plus there weight about a ton? maybe more?

Ides · 01-03-2008

Well, if master chief weighs half a ton and can sit on the back of a quad...

Wakim · 01-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Ides

Well, if master chief weighs half a ton and can sit on the back of a quad...

Hahahaha

Did you just tried to aply logic to an arcadish fps?!

What next?

Mario?

Ides · 01-03-2008

Well, I was aiming more towards saying that if master chief in armour weighs half a ton, marines might be at least that...

But while, we're on that subject, with the amount of drugs and suspicious herbs mario gets his hands on, its hard to be sure what he can and can't do...

Wakim · 01-03-2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ides

Well, I was aiming more towards saying that if master chief in armour weighs half a ton, marines might be at least that...

But while, we're on that subject, with the amount of drugs and suspicious herbs mario gets his hands on, its hard to be sure what he can and can't do...

Read post 16

Ides · 01-03-2008

yes, yes I did. The world is logical in my head you see.

Spartan2154 · 3 Weeks Ago

This helped me in my Anatomy Paper!!!! THANKS A LOT!!!

TerminatorinHell · 3 Weeks Ago

i got idea for a bit of fluff for my chapter, they say SM dont have feelings right no family? Well my chapter lets Marines keep their memorie and once in a while they take a trip with the DeathWolves to their home planets to spend some time with their family to recuperate (Ryoto's family is Ayame(andriod GF) and his brother (name unknown))

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Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,062 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Nice. But the muscle expansion doesn't actually correspond to the bone structure. I'm not sure if Marines would still have pectorals to the same extent as regular folk, but given the limitations of the modelling program he seems to be using, it's understandable. He also leaves out the fact that the ossmoddula doesn't make the bones grow faster by itself, rather it changes the bones structure, using ceramic chemicals in the marine's diet to harden them beyond normal human resistance. In the process he describes, marines would be subject to a great deal of muscle entropy and infection unless constantly supervised and would need to be drip fed their food. Given the constant 'at war' state of all chapters and the relentless training programs this takes up time and personnel that the Chapter should not under any reasonable set of circumstances be able to spare. I'm also not sure about the muscle proportions used. Marines undergo a great deal of modification to both muscle mass and density, as well as bone composites, so the skeletal structure would be markedly different to that of an unaugmented human, probably in the upper torso and skull, as remarked in the Horus Heresy Books. More here: http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/initiation/1/ Size-wise its fairly good, though for some reason I always thought of SM as taller... For a lot of what they have, they would need to scale up the human frame an awful lot, especially since the standard human genome and bone structure is tailored towards the 6ft line. Beyond that to any great extent is considered abnormal, and markedly dangerous for most people. While taller people can cover more ground they aren't generally faster (especially in the 7' bracket) and their ankles and lower backs would be under considerable stress. If the joint can't cope with that, the Ossmoddula would need to reinforce that somehow to cope with the additional stresses of the ceramic chemicals, and for the kind of speed and coordination marines are supposed to exhibit outside of their power armour, the amount of testosterone running through the marine's system would be downright imposing in the least. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. "I'd consider him dangerous...he's too hairy not to be." Phil Ken Sebben For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used. Last edited by Ides; 12-29-2007 at 02:34 PM.

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Wakim Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 989 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 44 Posts Blog Entries: 2	But... but i thought Space Marines DID get a litle bit bigger as time passed at least in the first years(decades, centuries). __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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Rellik Pancake Madman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wichita Kansas, or as we like to call it the dub k Posts: 1,329 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 80 Thanked 91 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	i didnt think they would weight that much. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. This is Rellik and i approve this message To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. come on by and visit

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Wakim Lieutenant Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 989 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 44 Posts Blog Entries: 2	Weigh has strange ways :P It`s an illusion actually Just because i`m really tall and not that buffed people think i weigh 3/4 - 4/5 of how much i actually do And muscle weighs more than fat :P AND SM have a LOT denser bones and i`m pretty sure their muscle tisue should be also denser than normal __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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Rellik Pancake Madman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wichita Kansas, or as we like to call it the dub k Posts: 1,329 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 80 Thanked 91 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	yeah i can see that now with there bones and muscle growth how heavy they would get. how much does there armour weigh? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. This is Rellik and i approve this message To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. come on by and visit

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Rellik Pancake Madman Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Wichita Kansas, or as we like to call it the dub k Posts: 1,329 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 80 Thanked 91 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	ha ha. i would guess with armour on plus there weight about a ton? maybe more? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. This is Rellik and i approve this message To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. come on by and visit

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Ides Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 1,062 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 37 Times in 36 Posts Blog Entries: 4	Well, I was aiming more towards saying that if master chief in armour weighs half a ton, marines might be at least that... But while, we're on that subject, with the amount of drugs and suspicious herbs mario gets his hands on, its hard to be sure what he can and can't do... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. The opinions posted above are solely the property of the Ides account and are in no way representative of those views held by the staff of this forum. "I'd consider him dangerous...he's too hairy not to be." Phil Ken Sebben For sale: One soul. Mint Condition, never been used.

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