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Hmmm... The same question can be posed of two of the three other Cult Legions... Had Fulgrim not despaired and cried out for help in an hour of weakness, opening his soul to the Daemon that possessed him, would the Emperors Children have remained loyal? Or if the Emperor had not enacted a hypocrisy by outcasting Magnus for a practice he himself conducted, would the Thousand Sons have rebelled. Or if he hadn't have sent Russ and the Wolves to raze Prospero, would the Thousand Sons have turned? Really, a better question would be, left to thier own devices and isolated, would any of the Primarchs have turned? But to answer Sothic's question, I do believe Mortarion would have turned, just perhaps not to Nurgle. | |
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03-30-2007
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Blog Entries: 4 | Of course Mortarion would have turned. Aside from Horus and Night Haunter, the rest of the primarchs considered Mortarion something of a freak, so why would he side with them? You have to remember, it was never his intention to turn to nurgle. He only did that when typhus lead them adrift in the warp and they were in danger of dying from the destroyer plague.
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 | yea i agree. mortarion, to me, was loyal but typhus corrupted him. the emporer caused the turning of Lorgar, and, as a result, Horus, and Magnus. but Horus was the one that turned most of the rest.
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| thats very true dan. most of the primarchs that did go rogue were pushed by one man or another. mortarion i believe would have stayed loyal had it not been for typhus and his killing of the navigators in the warp the only ones i will blame the emperor personally for are Magnus and Angron probably Perturabo
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| well im using the information on typhus on the uk website for games workshop. it said that mortarion was rushing towards terra to tell the emperor about the betrayal of his brothers. (by this time typhus had already turned) while in the warp mortarion had learned of the attack on magnus for the use of psyker powers. so typhus in order to keep the death guard in the warp killed the navigators and explained it away as they are users of a power the emperor has condemned. the ships the death guard and mortarion are on are now stranded in the warp long enough for the disease to rip through them forming the nurgle death guard. the death guard corpes rise and become the silent virulent marines they are now. mind you this is the info the uk website has. and also remember many have declared that the horus hereasy novels go against what was once cannon. dont quote me however. i might be mixing what i read with the flight of the eisenstien.
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| yea the emporer caused the turning of angron as well, but he was messed up from the start. he turned lorgar because he reprimanded him because of his and his legions feirce worship of him, but one of his captains who had already turned to chaos turned him as well. then together they turned horus.
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Blog Entries: 1 | female marines can't exist the implants aren't compatable with women that was a joke... anyway He would definatly not of turned to nurgle without Typhus to screw him over...if none of them turned and the Emporer conquered the galaxy and there was no one left to fight Angron would turn anyway cause he NEEDS to fight so that one wasn't the Emporer but Logar was and so was Magnus although magnus's dappling in sorcery would of turned him eventually and I believe somewhere it says that Horus prompted Russ to massacre the Sons but not sure on that one...Magnus had russ but he poked him in the eye...dirty cheatin' flea infested wolf
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| Well, in my opinion, pretty much all of the traitor Primarchs would have turned against the Emperor by themselves anyways, without any influence from their Legions, or even without Chaos. Most of them seemed to have a serious anger against the Emperor anyway, or at least the other Primarchs, and so they would have ended up doing something... or so my opinion goes anyways... The only exception to this IMO is Magnus... poor guy... he really was loyal, just made a few mistakes, but due to Horus screwing up the Emperor's order the Space Wolves decimated them just for trying to help the big E, and at the last moment he turned to Chaos just to save his Legion...
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| Conscript | yeah magnus's tale really is the most tragic. though the way the fluff seems to be (to me at least) is, mortarion seemed ok to leave well enough alone, with regards the emperor. it likely they 9 traitor chapters would ahve turned with/without horus, though i think death guard (alongside thousand sons and word bearers who kind of went in the deep end when the emperor told them to stop worshiping him) would have remained loyal... at least longer than the others! |
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| Yeah, that sounds right... though I think the Word Bearers shift was bound to happen... they wanted to worhsip gods, and Chaos provided them the opening! I agree with Death Gaurd and Thousand Sons though... sounds like they would have been least likely to turn... and in the DG's case, who would willingly want to turn to Nurgle? 
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