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07-03-2007

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Originally Posted by Torquemada Coteaz

to those who read my post before this one:
My bad, I tend to mix both "Great Wars" or "World Wars" into one in my mind

So if I ever seem to mix something in the 2 wars, it was only kin of mixed, but actually just I'm thinking both wars as one.
Also if the movies and games (and all of my US History textbooks) hold true then there were trenches in WWII... just not long networks everywhere and trench stalemates for months.
They were used, just not much. no longer the means of defense like they were used to, now just connecting various bunkers or set atop a hill to provide a tiny bit o' cover and such.

They were still used quite extensively on the Eastern front by the Russian. Especially the Guard brigades. and in the old style even.

Torquemada Coteaz · 07-03-2007

=P I haven't read much text on that AT ALL...
It's 99% about the "heroic american neighbours" and "canadians who won against the odds" here in the cold white north, you know?

wolfpack · 07-04-2007

Trenches were also used extensively by US forces as defensive structures around NATO bases in Vietnam...(touchy subject I know)...although not as extensively as WWI or in the manner the Russians used them in defense lines during WWII...now a days it just bulldoze a big wall of sand up around yer perimeter and set someone up there every ten to twenty meters with NVs and a 'vox' box... LPOP anyone? Here's another kicker...if you ever look at the layout of some US military bases...you will notice that there are some that have 'trenches' at strategic locations, some in the form of drainage channels (like at Fort Knox) others just a simple creek bed...

masterofweirdness · 07-04-2007

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Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

Also, Hitler did use chemical warfare in WWII. I can't cite the battle(s), but will be looking for ya.

Really... I thought he didn't use it in battles, but just gassed the Jews.

Hmm... will have to look it up.

Edit: According to Wiki (so it could be wrong) Chemical Weapons were stockpiled and prepared for use by both the US and the Germans, but never used. The Japanese did use Chemical Weapons against the Chinese, but not against the Allies. So, ya, Chemical weapons were used in WWII, but just by the Japanese in China.

Warmaster Romulas · 07-04-2007

well NBC warfare has been around since the greeks put scorpions in pottery and launched them over the walls of the enemy, and a little thing called Greek fire that would burn hotter on water
to get a hold of strategies you should read the books of their specific masters
for your particular taste
if you like:
Tank/ Armor read: Irwin Rommel's book or George Patton's
Carrier tactics : Admiral Bull Halsey
Cavalry : George Armstrong Custer
Anti Xenos : Ellen Riply
and so on just look up the particular Tactic and there are books for them
i know Reading Halsey's book improved my Gothic game exponentialy
as long as your army mirrors what they used in my case my gothic fleet is fighter bomber heavy. and my marine fleet uses only Thunderhawks great stuff Really

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

Yeah. I read a lot of military history. Mostly about the weapons, but some of the tactics too. Anyone read Heinz Guderian's Achung Panzer?

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

Spartan knows all when it comes to anything military. from ancient greek, roman, macedonian,to modern european, asian, and american military arts. weapons, tactics, logistics, theories and technology; anything you wanna know.

but spartan dont know diddly bout 40k stuff

he a newbie.

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

Spartan knows all when it comes to anything military. from ancient greek, roman, macedonian,to modern european, asian, and american military arts. weapons, tactics, logistics, theories and technology; anything you wanna know.

but spartan dont know diddly bout 40k stuff

he a newbie.

Hey what is the name of that bellybow thing, something like gastrafetes?

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

the little greek crossbow thingy?

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

the little greek crossbow thingy?

Not sure if it was Greek. I saw a show on it a long time ago on the History Channel. Something about ancient secret weapons programs, and I can't for the life of me remember what it is called.

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

yeah, Gastraphetes, ancient greek handheld crossbow.

BrainDeleted · 08-09-2007

there is also a giant Persian bow that is held with both feet and strung with both arm. The firer sits on his back and aims then fires

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

Ha! Thanks Spartan. You don't know how long that's been bugging me. I got a question for ya. Do you know the name of Hitler's dogs?

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

his german shepard was named Blondi. died in 45' born in 1934.

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

his german shepard was named Blondi. died in 45' born in 1934.

Holy cow! I didn't think anyone else knew that. Didn't he have one named Muck also?

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

not to mine knowledge, but ask wikipedia it knows everything, thats who i ask when i dont know stuff.

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

not to mine knowledge, but ask wikipedia it knows everything, thats who i ask when i dont know stuff.

Yeah, I gotta look that one up. I'm gonna grill ya again Spartan. What is the name of the man who invented Greek fire?

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

Kallikinos
he was actually byzantine greek, the jelly from hell, as i like to call it, was used fer naval battles contrary to popular belief.

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

Kallikinos
he was actually byzantine greek, the jelly from hell, as i like to call it, was used fer naval battles contrary to popular belief.

That's right! Helljelly lol. O.k., you pass the test. You know your history, my friend.

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

Spartan does some pelvic thrusts*

Yeah! I OWN3D those questions!!!

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

Who is the best general in history? Gimme your opinion.

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

i would say george s. patton, he leads from the front, thats all anyone could ever ask for.

Dragoon King · 08-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Spartan2154

i would say george s. patton, he leads from the front, thats all anyone could ever ask for.

Good choice. I vote for Temujin. He was left for dead as a child, had no formal schooling, and created one of the largest empires in history.

Spartan2154 · 08-09-2007

never heard of him actually.....
was he chinese?
I'll have to look into this fellow....

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Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 249 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 21	not to mine knowledge, but ask wikipedia it knows everything, thats who i ask when i dont know stuff. __________________ I am either crazy, or inhumanly sane.

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Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 249 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 21	Kallikinos he was actually byzantine greek, the jelly from hell, as i like to call it, was used fer naval battles contrary to popular belief. __________________ I am either crazy, or inhumanly sane.

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Dragoon King Destruction Manifest Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Loyall, Kentucky Posts: 2,653 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 70 Thanked 95 Times in 73 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Who is the best general in history? Gimme your opinion. __________________ “Nothing you can lose by dying is half so precious as the readiness to die, which is a man’s charter of nobility.” George Santayana.

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Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 249 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 21	i would say george s. patton, he leads from the front, thats all anyone could ever ask for. __________________ I am either crazy, or inhumanly sane.

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Spartan2154 Corporal Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ConCreTe JuNgLe (southern California, US) Posts: 249 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Blog Entries: 21	never heard of him actually..... was he chinese? I'll have to look into this fellow.... __________________ I am either crazy, or inhumanly sane.