khorne company - 40K Terra

Biadetic · 10-23-2007

Im still newish, so whats it like to field a full khorne army, is it overly vulnerable to shooty armies as such? whats the pro's and con's in your opinions guys?

cheers ^^

lord marcus · 10-23-2007

um broad questions. entire company, you mean 1000 marines (since the chaos legions were 10000 strong - companys were the size of a chapter)

hmmm. i don't think i could say, although it probably would be a bullet pie in no time for a noob.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

Khorne can very easily become a bullet pie. But if you pile them in rhinos and slam the front lines, double tap bolt pistols, etc.. That's one of the most horriffic tactics i've seen. And plus, most people are scared to charge Khornate units, they just try to run away. Psychology works good in your favor if you are very ruthless with khorne.

Biadetic · 10-24-2007

hmm yea, maybe "company" was to broad a term, i just meant like, feilding a Khorne army (no specific number of models).

What tactics then, mayhaps a better question, would you use whilst using Khorne

thanks erus, the more i think about it im gaining a better grasp.
i guess you'd want to occupy the enemy's attention per se until you can get your berserkers up yea?

Thanx again

hairyyahoo · 10-24-2007

well i used to run a khorne force under the old dex and they were nasty if you could get them into cc in a decent state. i imagine the same holds true witht he current dex, its just a bit slower on foot now that they've lost the blood rage rule. as erus said rhinos are the order of the day, berzerkers and units with the icon for troops and a lord with the nasty deamon weapon is a good start. add some possessed if you fancy it and maybe some summoned daemons for nuisanse value. defilers are a good way to get some anti tank in the force and now that they are fleet and can have 4 ccws they are even more knorne friendly

Lord Commander Erus · 10-24-2007

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Originally Posted by hairyyahoo

well i used to run a khorne force under the old dex and they were nasty if you could get them into cc in a decent state. i imagine the same holds true witht he current dex, its just a bit slower on foot now that they've lost the blood rage rule. as erus said rhinos are the order of the day, berzerkers and units with the icon for troops and a lord with the nasty deamon weapon is a good start. add some possessed if you fancy it and maybe some summoned daemons for nuisanse value. defilers are a good way to get some anti tank in the force and now that they are fleet and can have 4 ccws they are even more knorne friendly

However, I would not give the Khornate Lord the daemon weapon. Far to easy to kill yourself from what i've heard.

Before you finish much, or think of daemons, i'd wait to see what this 'daemon dex' bit brings next year! Bloodletters and such may well return!!

Units of Chaos Marines with Icon of Khorne in rhinos. Give them flamers or such. Add all the weaponry (pintle mounted) you can, charge in, unload all your boys and double tap EVERYTHING. Either the enemy will run away, and you can chase them down, or rinse and repeat the tactic! This will either make sure your opponent diverts power to knock off your armored speartip (daemons of a throwaway nature like the current lesser daemons might prove useful here!), or he ignores it seeing it as the ploy it is and focuses on your berserkers.

And even if he does, he's still ignored that speatip and has a lot of angry Khornate marines in his front yard, and I doub they're selling Girl Scout cookies!

That would be my thoughts on a new Khornate army.

hairyyahoo · 10-24-2007

another thing to bear in mind is to focus all your strength on one section of the enemies army. you will almose certainly be out numbered but not easily outclasses, especially the zerkers. roll up one flank in the rhinos and then roll down the line atking on the enemy one unit at a time with as much of your army as you can.

lord marcus · 10-26-2007

they can work mechanized, but otherwise, its pin cushion time!!

Chaos Lord Horus · 10-28-2007

khorne own!
deres blood splatterin' ev'ry where!
u need to get a sqaud of bezerkers a sqaud of havocs, a rhino and some terminators
1.get zerkers into rhino
2.get terminators behind heavy cover
3get havocs positioned for an attack
4.move with rhino
5.fire with havocs.
6.terminators do nowt
7.keep moving to heart of battle with rhinos
8.relase the zerkers,the havocs should have killed a few dudes and rhinos will not be hurt.
9.get terminators to teleport into batlle and deepstrike.
10.move havocs forward and keep firing.
11.let destruction envelope the battle field ^_^
and get some lesser daemons and a bloodthirster( 5 attacks)
hows that?

Biadetic · 11-09-2007

i think, as things are going, the man thing im gonna do is just unload stuff at once in one section and work my way solidly through everything, im not playing by tactics, im not smart enough, im gonna play like a real khorne warrior and see how much stuff i can kill before they beat me...il still hold the moral victory though

SteveBerenyi · 11-09-2007

ok, maybe it is just me, but i like the sounds of those tactics.

Biadetic · 11-09-2007

Awsome, join me, you play a khornate army and il play mine, you take the left, il go right, and chomp our way through ^^

if its guard/tau, all the better ^^ as long as they refrain from firing until we're in CC then its all goood ^^

Dan296 · 11-10-2007

ok, for my khorne force i use an armoured spearhead followed by some zerkers on foot.
i dunno if its just me, but ive almost never been decimated by shooting to the point where the close combat abilities cant turn the tables.

Chaos Lord Horus · 11-10-2007

khorne are good if u can get them to close combat, but otherwise they can be shot dead, if ur looking for an army thst can withstand, get nurgle

Dragoon King · 11-14-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

Khorne can very easily become a bullet pie. But if you pile them in rhinos and slam the front lines, double tap bolt pistols, etc.. That's one of the most horriffic tactics i've seen. And plus, most people are scared to charge Khornate units, they just try to run away. Psychology works good in your favor if you are very ruthless with khorne.

So would you suggest that my squad of Bezerkers be mounted in a Rhino and follow behind say, a Land Raider and then hit the front lines? Hmmm... 10 zerkers and 5 LC equipped termies, sounds like fun!

God_Grinder · 11-14-2007

defilers and cc dreads are great to. if for nothing they make great distractions. most people will direct fire at them while you sneak your troups up. specaly with fleeting cc defilers. cause if they dont they will have a nasy time takin care of them once they reach cc. and that should give your zerkers enough time to get close enough, dont forget the deepstriking korn icon raptors.

Biadetic · 11-15-2007

ah yes, cc defiler, must sort that out, iv got my current defiler equppied for shooting to supply firepower/cover but i think the idea of making the enemy focus on it before it hits cc is a good idea

and id never thought much about using the raptors, not sure why, just never occured to me, are they well worth the investment?

Four20edLogan · 11-15-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by bezerker

khorne own!
deres blood splatterin' ev'ry where!
u need to get a sqaud of bezerkers a sqaud of havocs, a rhino and some terminators
1.get zerkers into rhino
2.get terminators behind heavy cover
3get havocs positioned for an attack
4.move with rhino
5.fire with havocs.
6.terminators do nowt
7.keep moving to heart of battle with rhinos
8.relase the zerkers,the havocs should have killed a few dudes and rhinos will not be hurt.
9.get terminators to teleport into batlle and deepstrike.
10.move havocs forward and keep firing.
11.let destruction envelope the battle field ^_^
and get some lesser daemons and a bloodthirster( 5 attacks)
hows that?

Well said

Dragoon King · 11-15-2007

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Originally Posted by Biadetic

ah yes, cc defiler, must sort that out, iv got my current defiler equppied for shooting to supply firepower/cover but i think the idea of making the enemy focus on it before it hits cc is a good idea

and id never thought much about using the raptors, not sure why, just never occured to me, are they well worth the investment?

Just think of a 20 man squad of Raptors with the Icon of Khorne, 2 Plasma Pistols, and an Aspiring Champion with twin Lightning Claws. Total carnage if they get within assault range!

Biadetic · 11-15-2007

I'm liking the sound of that

i'll definetly loook in to it cheers dude ^^

What advice then would you give for gearing up the "Chosen" ? I heard that you should give them a definitive purpose, CC / anti-tank etc etc Should you design them for one main purpose then? As its khorne themed would you want them to be CC orientated and leave anti - tank to say the Havocs??

Biadetic · 11-19-2007

Im gonna bump this as im gonna start on my chosen soon and wouldnt mind some good advice, cheers ^^

experiment 626 · 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Biadetic

Im gonna bump this as im gonna start on my chosen soon and wouldnt mind some good advice, cheers ^^

for khornate chosen, i'd stick to power fists, lightning claws & meltaguns in terms of upgrades...

how about something like;
8x chosen
+ icon of khorne
+ 2x meltagund
+ 2x pair of lightning claws
+ aspiring champ w/power fist.

pretty damn tasty if you ask me!

(though it will run you a few hundred pts in the hole...)

cheers!

Spartan-11755 · 12-18-2007

well I did the Math sad enough.. I'm running my new Khorne army
6 Khrone Zerkers 1 skull Champion plasma with 12 guys in each
1 Khorne lord DAemon Wep
1 Kharn The Betrayer

And heres the bad thing thats
1997pts right there but still think about it... thats 72 Zerkers on a standard board could they make it?(bought both Maelstroms of blood btw) I'm gonna try and get a termi lord and his ret all marked Khorne...

Sorry for the thread jack but it is about khorne eh?

Word Bearer 81007 · 12-18-2007

your zerkers will make it to the enemy line but not necessarily with enough strength to win the day. if your opponent is mobile heavy you might not reach them at all. what is the anti-tank factor of the army? and why not drop it done a few squads to accomidate some of the other finer units in the CSM codex. a defiler or two, or some dreadnoughts still fit the theme and will either give you the power to deal with tanks or draw fire away from your zerkers running all mad man across the field.

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Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	khorne company Im still newish, so whats it like to field a full khorne army, is it overly vulnerable to shooty armies as such? whats the pro's and con's in your opinions guys? cheers ^^ __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

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Lord Commander Erus Your Friendly Neighborhood Heretic Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY (Back home in the bluegrass) Posts: 6,608 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 170 Thanked 397 Times in 248 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Khorne can very easily become a bullet pie. But if you pile them in rhinos and slam the front lines, double tap bolt pistols, etc.. That's one of the most horriffic tactics i've seen. And plus, most people are scared to charge Khornate units, they just try to run away. Psychology works good in your favor if you are very ruthless with khorne. __________________ "Men are haunted by the vastness of eternity. And so we ask ourselves: will our actions echo across the centuries? Will strangers hear our names long after we are gone, and wonder who we were, how bravely we fought, how fiercely we loved?" - Odyseeus (Troy - 2004) Black Saints Adeptus Astartes Chapter

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Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	hmm yea, maybe "company" was to broad a term, i just meant like, feilding a Khorne army (no specific number of models). What tactics then, mayhaps a better question, would you use whilst using Khorne thanks erus, the more i think about it im gaining a better grasp. i guess you'd want to occupy the enemy's attention per se until you can get your berserkers up yea? Thanx again __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

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hairyyahoo Master Procrastinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: As a figment of my own deranged imagination, i don't actually exist anywhere. Or London, UK. Posts: 3,639 Rep Power: 5 Thanks: 254 Thanked 408 Times in 291 Posts Blog Entries: 1	well i used to run a khorne force under the old dex and they were nasty if you could get them into cc in a decent state. i imagine the same holds true witht he current dex, its just a bit slower on foot now that they've lost the blood rage rule. as erus said rhinos are the order of the day, berzerkers and units with the icon for troops and a lord with the nasty deamon weapon is a good start. add some possessed if you fancy it and maybe some summoned daemons for nuisanse value. defilers are a good way to get some anti tank in the force and now that they are fleet and can have 4 ccws they are even more knorne friendly __________________ Howling At The Moon - A Truescale Space Wolf W.I.P Black Legion W.I.P Frozen Leaves Falling to Cut - eldar W.I.P Hairys Scratch Build Hallahballu

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hairyyahoo Master Procrastinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: As a figment of my own deranged imagination, i don't actually exist anywhere. Or London, UK. Posts: 3,639 Rep Power: 5 Thanks: 254 Thanked 408 Times in 291 Posts Blog Entries: 1	another thing to bear in mind is to focus all your strength on one section of the enemies army. you will almose certainly be out numbered but not easily outclasses, especially the zerkers. roll up one flank in the rhinos and then roll down the line atking on the enemy one unit at a time with as much of your army as you can. __________________ Howling At The Moon - A Truescale Space Wolf W.I.P Black Legion W.I.P Frozen Leaves Falling to Cut - eldar W.I.P Hairys Scratch Build Hallahballu

10-23-2007	#2 (permalink)
lord marcus Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: titusville florida Posts: 1,857 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 96 Thanked 69 Times in 54 Posts Blog Entries: 1	um broad questions. entire company, you mean 1000 marines (since the chaos legions were 10000 strong - companys were the size of a chapter) hmmm. i don't think i could say, although it probably would be a bullet pie in no time for a noob.

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lord marcus Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: titusville florida Posts: 1,857 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 96 Thanked 69 Times in 54 Posts Blog Entries: 1	they can work mechanized, but otherwise, its pin cushion time!!

10-28-2007	#9 (permalink)
Chaos Lord Horus Adeptus Arbites Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eye Of Terror,UK Posts: 592 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 66 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts	khorne own! deres blood splatterin' ev'ry where! u need to get a sqaud of bezerkers a sqaud of havocs, a rhino and some terminators 1.get zerkers into rhino 2.get terminators behind heavy cover 3get havocs positioned for an attack 4.move with rhino 5.fire with havocs. 6.terminators do nowt 7.keep moving to heart of battle with rhinos 8.relase the zerkers,the havocs should have killed a few dudes and rhinos will not be hurt. 9.get terminators to teleport into batlle and deepstrike. 10.move havocs forward and keep firing. 11.let destruction envelope the battle field ^_^ and get some lesser daemons and a bloodthirster( 5 attacks) hows that? Last edited by Chaos Lord Horus; 10-28-2007 at 01:14 AM.

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Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	i think, as things are going, the man thing im gonna do is just unload stuff at once in one section and work my way solidly through everything, im not playing by tactics, im not smart enough, im gonna play like a real khorne warrior and see how much stuff i can kill before they beat me...il still hold the moral victory though __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,565 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 199 Thanked 273 Times in 162 Posts Blog Entries: 10	ok, maybe it is just me, but i like the sounds of those tactics. __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4

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Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Awsome, join me, you play a khornate army and il play mine, you take the left, il go right, and chomp our way through ^^ if its guard/tau, all the better ^^ as long as they refrain from firing until we're in CC then its all goood ^^ __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

11-10-2007	#13 (permalink)
Dan296 Adeptus Arbrites Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 36 Posts	ok, for my khorne force i use an armoured spearhead followed by some zerkers on foot. i dunno if its just me, but ive almost never been decimated by shooting to the point where the close combat abilities cant turn the tables.

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Chaos Lord Horus Adeptus Arbites Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Eye Of Terror,UK Posts: 592 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 66 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts	khorne are good if u can get them to close combat, but otherwise they can be shot dead, if ur looking for an army thst can withstand, get nurgle

11-14-2007	#16 (permalink)
God_Grinder Corporal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: socal Posts: 313 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 3 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	defilers and cc dreads are great to. if for nothing they make great distractions. most people will direct fire at them while you sneak your troups up. specaly with fleeting cc defilers. cause if they dont they will have a nasy time takin care of them once they reach cc. and that should give your zerkers enough time to get close enough, dont forget the deepstriking korn icon raptors. __________________ Let the galaxy be illuminated, As it burns!!!

11-15-2007	#17 (permalink)
Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	ah yes, cc defiler, must sort that out, iv got my current defiler equppied for shooting to supply firepower/cover but i think the idea of making the enemy focus on it before it hits cc is a good idea and id never thought much about using the raptors, not sure why, just never occured to me, are they well worth the investment? __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

11-15-2007	#20 (permalink)
Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	I'm liking the sound of that i'll definetly loook in to it cheers dude ^^ What advice then would you give for gearing up the "Chosen" ? I heard that you should give them a definitive purpose, CC / anti-tank etc etc Should you design them for one main purpose then? As its khorne themed would you want them to be CC orientated and leave anti - tank to say the Havocs?? __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

11-19-2007	#21 (permalink)
Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Im gonna bump this as im gonna start on my chosen soon and wouldnt mind some good advice, cheers ^^ __________________ Bowser has Lightning Claws... Watch out Mario, he can re-roll !!

12-18-2007	#24 (permalink)
Word Bearer 81007 Sergeant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pueblo, colorado (hell) Posts: 569 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 19 Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts	your zerkers will make it to the enemy line but not necessarily with enough strength to win the day. if your opponent is mobile heavy you might not reach them at all. what is the anti-tank factor of the army? and why not drop it done a few squads to accomidate some of the other finer units in the CSM codex. a defiler or two, or some dreadnoughts still fit the theme and will either give you the power to deal with tanks or draw fire away from your zerkers running all mad man across the field.

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Biadetic Sergeant Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 706 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 42 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts