6th Grand Company Emperors Children Chaos Marines (New Codex)

[Lord Commander Erus]

Here's my new-new list for those of you who can help! And partly so Dragoon King doesn't think all of us Chaos Nuts are dead!

Emperors Children 6th Grand Company, under the command of Lord Commander Erus the Blissgiver. Blessed by the presence of the Daemon Prince Xsili.

-HQ-




Daemon Prince Xsili: 135 pts.
Wings, Mark of Slaanesh, CCW



Lord Commander Erus Blissgiver, the Golden Handed, Leader of the Sixth:
155 pts.
Power Armor, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Mark of Slaanesh, Daemon Weapon(Blissgiver), Jump Pack

290 pts. selection, 290 pts. overall





-Elites-


1st Peritus Justaerin Squad
Chosen Terminators (6x): 255 pts.
Terminator Champion(1x): Lightning Claws, Slaanesh Icon
Terminator(1x): Chainfist, Twin-linked bolter
Terminator(5x): Lightning Claws




Brother Augustus, the Hedonite, Desecrated One of Slaanesh: 110
Chaos Dreadnought
Smoke Launchers, Dreadnought CWW (heavy flamer), Plasma Cannon


365 pts. selection, 655 overall








-Troops-



2nd Deprecor, 4th Arcus Light Support Squad: = 280 (560 for both)
Noise Marines(All have Mark of Slaanesh, etc..)
Aspiring Champion:Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Sonic Blaster,
Chaos Marine(9): Sonic Blaster, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Frag & Krak



3rd Comminus, 5th____, 6th Ires, 8th Comminus Quick-Attack Squad: 245 (980 total)
Aspiring Champion: Slaanesh Icon, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol,
Chaos Space Marine(1x): Meltagun, CCW, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol
Chaos Space Marine(8x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CWW
Chaos Rhino: Twin-linked Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight



5th Quick-Attack Squad: 245
Aspiring Champion: Slaanesh Icon, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol,
Chaos Space Marine(1x): Meltagun, CCW, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol
Chaos Space Marine(8x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CWW
Chaos Rhino: Twin-linked Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight

1535 pts. total for Selection, 2190 pts. overall






-Fast Attack-



7th Velox Assault Squad: 280
Chaos Raptors - Jump Infantry
Aspiring Champion: Lightning Claws, Frag & Krak, Slaanesh Icon
Chaos Raptor(7x): Bolt Pistol, CWW, Frag & Krak
Chaos Raptor(2x): Meltagun, CWW, Frag & Krak

280 pts. selection, 2470 Overall






-Heavy Support-


Trucido, the Shackeled One: 120 pts.
Chaos Predator
Autocannon, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Daemonic Possession,



Cult of Xsili: 150
Obliterator Cult
Obliterator(2x): Powerfist, Obliterator Weapons(Multi-Melta, Plasma Cannon, Twin-linked Plasma Gun, Twin-Linked Meltagun, Twin-Linked Flamer)



9th Gravius Telum Havoc Squad: 260
Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion: Power Weapon, Slaanesh Icon, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Frag & Krak
Havoc(3x): Missile Launcher, Frag & Krak
Havoc(6x): Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Frag & Krak


530 pts. selection, 3000 pts. overall

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

yay! slaanesh icon raptors!

will the icon units be painted/decorated the same as the termies/noise amrin unit?

the list looks ok to me. on first glance id say tehre isnt much antitank, but with a dread (finally in Elite,about friggin time), and the oblits there should be enough.

[BrainDeleted]

dread is alittle unpredictable with that shiny plasma cannon he could tear you or the enemy up...

I'd drop him and bump up your existing stuff...reaper auto cannon for the termies and a few more men?

[Lord Commander Erus]

Yes they will, and they will likely be modeled pre-heresy scheme. Nto sure yet.

What say you all?

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

maybe more antitank weaponry on the vehicles and give the noisemarines more anto infantry stuff (which is what theyre best at. just 3 oblits isnt enough anti-tank for a proper army

[Lord Commander Erus]

Dread is not an option to be dropped. I bought the FW one, painted him, have him set in the fluff. He's not going anywhere. Weapon set up can change though.

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

yeah - lascannon!

[Lord Commander Erus]

Hmmm.. Never been a fan of a las cannon. Missile launcher is always so much cheaper, and versatility factor wise.. I just dunno.

BTW.. You guys seem to forget the havocs for anti-tank, as well as the raptors w/ two meltaguns.

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

misile launchers arent antitank! theyre good all round but for serious antitan you need lascannons.

the oblits may be enough, though its ahrd to say without playtesting

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

misile launchers arent antitank! theyre good all round but for serious antitan you need lascannons.

the oblits may be enough, though its ahrd to say without playtesting

How is a missile launcher not anti-tank when it's only 1 str less? I really can't see it... Las are just over priced for a limited function weapon that is only marginally better. I'd love to hear what makes the las so much better even though it only has one more str.

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

that 1 S less makes a big difference. using that logic. an autocannon is only 1 S less than a missile launcher but thats hardly anto tank

of course the definition of anti tank is generally S8+ but missile launchers are only good at antitank if you have masses of them, otherwise, lascannons are really what you need to make sure you get the job done.

missile launchers struggle against monoliths, leman russes and land raiders. not to say that S9 is great against such things, but its better, and tbh, you have enough anti infantry in the army as it is with the destructor and noise amrine squad to need the frag missiles

[Lord Commander Erus]

*shrugs* So 3 of them in a squad isn't enough? I'm just hesitating at the huge cost of the las.. Where am I gonna get the pts.?

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

well try this army out first if possibly either by proxying or playign against yourself (sounds sad but it does the job at hand), then change as necessary. it depends on the army youre facing i guess.

against orks or nids, the missile launchers are great.

agianst leman russ or demolisher heavy IG i dont think theyre enough

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

well try this army out first if possibly either by proxying or playign against yourself (sounds sad but it does the job at hand), then change as necessary. it depends on the army youre facing i guess.

against orks or nids, the missile launchers are great.

agianst leman russ or demolisher heavy IG i dont think theyre enough

See.. Thats where I think the raptors with two melta guns would come in hella handy. Also, the way my pred is set up, I can go all las on it if I can find the pts.

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

the raptors are a bit of a gamble, but it may pay off.

as i said, its hard to say without any experiecne on the table - what may seem like a good army may ahve a defect no one notices and what looks like a bad army could be really good.

just try a few games against friends using proxies to get a feel for the list, then change if your gut tells you to!

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

the raptors are a bit of a gamble, but it may pay off.

as i said, its hard to say without any experiecne on the table - what may seem like a good army may ahve a defect no one notices and what looks like a bad army could be really good.

just try a few games against friends using proxies to get a feel for the list, then change if your gut tells you to!

I'll have to get cracking on the painting then. People are grumbling. I'll be posting up a list of what bits I need soon, lol. ALL SQUAD MUST HAVE THEME! *twitch*

[DeAd_cOmMaNdO]

cool. any ideas?

[Lord Commander Erus]

Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

cool. any ideas?

I have the themes already. Nothing flashy, just combinations of chaos bits and specific helmets.

Bumped for Stitch's eyes, and other comments!

[experiment 626]

sorry, had to wait till after i'd had a good read-through of the new codex! (it's good to be a red shirt now!)

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus.

Here's my new-new list for those of you who can help! And partly so Dragoon King doesn't think all of us Chaos Nuts are dead!


Daemon Prince Xsili: 135 pts.
Wings, Mark of Slaanesh, CCW


Lord Commander Erus Blissgiver, the Golden Handed, Leader of the Sixth:
155 pts.
Power Armor, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Mark of Slaanesh, Daemon Weapon(Blissgiver), Jump Pack

290 pts. selection, 290 pts. overall

+++ add on melta bombs to the lord. you never know when a dread/defiler/penitent engine will somehow mug you, or better yet, some silly person forgets to move their tank and thus gives you a 'free' S8 melta hit!+++

-Elites-


1st Peritus Justaerin Squad
Chosen Terminators (6x): 255 pts.
Terminator Champion(1x): Lightning Claws, Slaanesh Icon
Terminator(1x): Chainfist, Twin-linked bolter
Terminator(5x): Lightning Claws

+++ swap the bolter for a reaper autocannon... at least that way you have something to worry most vehicles as you advance.+++


Brother Augustus, the Hedonite, Desecrated One of Slaanesh: 110
Chaos Dreadnought
Smoke Launchers, Dreadnought CWW (heavy flamer), Plasma Cannon

+++ twin-linked autocannon is statistically the best weapon for a chaos dread. also the best weapon to employ against eldar & tau vehicles!
swap out the ccw arm for a rocket launcher; i've found that dreads actually live past turn 3 if they sit back at least 40" away and shoot stuff!+++

365 pts. selection, 655 overall


-Troops-

2nd Deprecor, 4th Arcus Light Support Squad: = 280 (560 for both)
Noise Marines(All have Mark of Slaanesh, etc..)
Aspiring Champion:Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Sonic Blaster,
Chaos Marine(9): Sonic Blaster, Bolt Pistol, CCW, Frag & Krak

+++ if possible, why make both squads 12 strong? it just might bring you a bit of extra luck?!!
at the least, it's probably a decent idea to add a blastmaster so you can threaten big nasty things... (not to mention a power fist on the champ!)+++


3rd Comminus, 5th____, 6th Ires, 8th Comminus Quick-Attack Squad: 245 (980 total)
Aspiring Champion: Slaanesh Icon, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol,
Chaos Space Marine(1x): Meltagun, CCW, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol
Chaos Space Marine(8x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CWW
Chaos Rhino: Twin-linked Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight

+++ as you're only taking 1 meltagun, drop each squad down to 8 men as that's the optimum squad size... (6 is purely for min/maxing, which can't be done anymore! meanwhile 10 adds alot more pts for little benifit over 8...)

i know it's expensive now, but you should add extra armour to the rhinos to give them that little extra bit of survivability.+++

5th Quick-Attack Squad: 245
Aspiring Champion: Slaanesh Icon, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol,
Chaos Space Marine(1x): Meltagun, CCW, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol
Chaos Space Marine(8x): Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, CWW
Chaos Rhino: Twin-linked Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight

1535 pts. total for Selection, 2190 pts. overall




-Fast Attack-



7th Velox Assault Squad: 280
Chaos Raptors - Jump Infantry
Aspiring Champion: Lightning Claws, Frag & Krak, Slaanesh Icon
Chaos Raptor(7x): Bolt Pistol, CWW, Frag & Krak
Chaos Raptor(2x): Meltagun, CWW, Frag & Krak

280 pts. selection, 2470 Overall

+++ ditch 'em... possessed are better overall, despite their newfound randomness.
raptors are still overpriced junk for what you get... (a slightly faster chaos marine!)+++



-Heavy Support-


Trucido, the Shackeled One: 120 pts.
Chaos Predator
Autocannon, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Heavy Bolter Sponsons, Daemonic Possession,

+++ i'd lose possession as it now drops your BS... keep it for either vindicators who don't give a &%*! or land raiders who have twin-linked weapon systems...
add on extra armour instead.+++

Cult of Xsili: 150
Obliterator Cult
Obliterator(2x): Powerfist, Obliterator Weapons(Multi-Melta, Plasma Cannon, Twin-linked Plasma Gun, Twin-Linked Meltagun, Twin-Linked Flamer)

9th Gravius Telum Havoc Squad: 260
Chaos Havocs
Aspiring Champion: Power Weapon, Slaanesh Icon, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Frag & Krak
Havoc(3x): Missile Launcher, Frag & Krak
Havoc(6x): Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Frag & Krak

+++ i'd drop the AC honestly... if these guys somehow end in combat, then something's gone horribly wrong for you!
save the pts to spend elsewhere.+++

530 pts. selection, 3000 pts. overall

well, sorry for if i kinda did tear everything apart... but i hope this helps!
cheers!

[Astral Claw 126]

I like it!!!! I need to do my list!! Grrr....need Army to hurry and get my collection out here!