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So I was thinking about this and gave some mention of my thoughts in a recent rant. Reactionary, rash and stupid. But a rant nonetheless with lots of thought in it.

What was mentioned was cannibalism.

As I understand it, the Kroot have a cannibalism thing, where they break into a feeding frenzy after close combat, it empowers them, but I think it also prevents them from chasing the enemy when they retreat.

One thing I was wondering about is, why don't Slaanesh followers have cannibalism? Indulgence and insanity? Hannibal Lecter with the strength of a Space Marine and none of the self-restraint?

Another thing: Vampires. Most decadent of human society's more Goth images of taboo. As an ability for aspiring champions or perhaps just lieutenants and commanders, why not Dracula like abilities? Flight, blood frenzy of some sort, possibly hypnosis or a natural invulnerable save (6+ for the chance of turning into mist).

We keep hearing about how Noise Marines exist to satiate the lust for extreme sensations. That the din of battle and their noise weapons are all that satisfies.

What about textural sensation? Perhaps as a modelling challenge, or using one of the datasheets, if there's no rules for it, a lieutenant or Chaos lord wrapped in either an armor suit made entirely of barbed wire, or wreathed in flame. I could imagine a warp flame that burns the whole body yet consumes no flesh, thus, the marine would be in constant flaming agony (literally), but he would never die from his own flame. If he gets his rocks off on the pain, it would fit in perfectly with Slaanesh, and he could also dance into an enemy squad, spreading fire wherever he fought.

Going back to the barbs, if the barbed wire wraps his whole form, appears outwardly as power armor, but covered in barbs, one could assume his blood would act as a channel for warp energy to power him, and possibly when he goes into close combat, his blood might emit agony to anyone who gets an unlucky spray to the face.

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Hmmm. Power Armour, with lots of barbed wire wrapped around bare arms and maybe even the entire head? That would be cool!
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Your rant gave me a bit of an idea. A single squad per army that has been driven insane for the need to fulfill all of their sick needs. I don't own a copy of the new chaos codex, but I have a few things to contribute:
They'd have the Feel no Pain special rule, Kroot Cannibalism rule, and a few Chaos specific rules(Do they still have combat drugs?)
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If not, I could draw up the old Combat Drugs from my Dark Eldar codex.
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isn't the black rage some form of blood frenzy ? i seem to remember hearing that they not only lose all control over themselves, but often simply drink blood and tear their victims apart ?
haha hence the names "flesh tearers" and "blood drinkers" :P rather macabre names for an army, don't you think ?

the eldar avatar kinda has this flamey thing going on..he's the core of a planet or something exotic like that, and i think all energy or heat/flame weapons he is impervious to...which is a nice addition to being sheathed in fire and heat... :]
neither of these are expressly slaanesh, but same idea, right ? :]
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Hey guys, I have the 3rd and 4th ed. Chaos codices, so if you need any help, let me know.
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Well, the idea of being immune to fire would only be part of it... The avatar is the god of its craftworld. There are actually a severe limit on how many actual Avatars there are, but each may re-manifest at the heart of the craftworld it was meant to protect.

However, does the avatar have fire-like abilities? Consider, Chaos is on the rise. The Eldar are falling. So it might be more feasable for there to be a daemonprince old and powerful enough to have similar abilities than it would be to see an Avatar on the battlefield.

Does the Avatar have flame-thrower like abilities? One idea I had is, instead of a flamer template, when in melee, the Chaos Champion of Slaanesh could release a burst of energy, a sort of warp flash released from within his being. And it would either be base-to-base, blast-template or ordnance. I haven't figured out which. The idea being he's on fire, everyone's trying to bayonet, beat, cut and shoot him in hand-to-hand, and he lets out a burst of warp-fire, becoming a temporary vortex of hellfire and destruction. Perhaps it would be a psychic ability, and require a psychic test (thus, perils of the warp would be the fire turning against him, rather than some random warp beast reaching up to grab him).

As to the barbed wire idea, I do like the suggested arms and possibly head only, where the rest is still power-armor. It seems more likely in my mind that that, or perhaps, an arm and a leg would be wrapped thusly, instead of the whole body...
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According to the liber chaotica, there's an uncanny story of khorne trying to strangle the nascent slaanesh and having his silver form split into thousands of fragments... Oddly similar to what happened to Khaine when the widowmaker thing fell on its ass...
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Hmm... so perhaps by that story, Slaanesh has thousands of little "avatars" running around doing his bidding? Perhaps that's the secret of the Dark Eldar when they get re-codexed! =P
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no, dark eldar are the ones that didnt go on the craftworlds and survived the fall. all they did was flee into the webway and found The Dark City.

the flame thing is similar to the Flame Falcons of the 21st cursed founding. members of the chapter, during one heated battle, spontaneously bursted into flames. it caused them no harm, and they thought it was the emperors blessing. they won the day, and later on as they celebrated back on their homeworld, the inquisition investigated and destroyed them all.
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Heh heh heh. Gotta love that Inquisition.
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Your idea is making more and more sense. I like the idea of a unit bursting into flamer/releasing warp fire.
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Ok. Idea:

Slaanesh Major Psychic power
Phoenix Rising (45 points): The sorceror is wreathed in warpfire that consumes all he touches. The agony he is wracked with is both terrible and exquisite. At will, this hellfire spews forth in great gouts of anguish and terror. When slain, the sorceror's soul is so powerfully channeled between his body and soul that the warpfire may mend his flesh, bringing him back from the dead.

A sorceror with this power gains an AP2 flamer ability he may use in the shooting phase. In close combat, the sorceror may superheat, causing a great inferno. If he chooses to cause an inferno, he must pass a psychic test before any rolls to hit are rolled, center the ordnance blast template over him. Any models partially or even fully covered under the ordnance blast template take a str8 AP2 hit, including the sorceror himself (it's assumed he's allowing his battle-lust to consume him). If the sorceror is killed, but not killed outright (by means of being hit with double toughness, or some other manner), he may take a psychic test. If he passes, restore him to his starting wounds value.

Basically, if he's got the natural S5 T5 of demonic stature (I think that's what gives him the bonuses), he can't be auto-killed by his own phoenix inferno. And probably can come back from the grave easily. If he doesn't have the bonuses, the inferno won't be used as much. I put a steep points value on it because I don't think something that powerful should be a 25pt psychic power...

Anywho. I might post later on the barbs of anguish idea...
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