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Old 08-07-2007   #1 (permalink)
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I have a question. How do 1000 sons replenish their ranks? If they are just spirits trapped in their armour, what happens when the armour is destroyed? Wouldn't all new initiates be sorcerers?
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You gotta understand there were at least 10,000 of them before the heresy. Thats a lot of marines! and since only about 15-20% at best were sorcerers thats a lot of 2 wound marines running around to destroy. Also they aren't as blood thristy or confrontational as other legions so they should take many fewer losses.

I imagine the sorcerers can reseal souls into armor too so they may be able to repair some after battles and in 40k a model that is a casualty isn't always dead just unable to fight, so they might loss a leg during a battle and be counted as a casualty but after wards be fixed.

They don't recruit new rubric marines. Its not possable without casting another rubric which magnus forbid.
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Wow, I never thought about them putting old spirits in new armour. But wouldn't their spirits go directly to the warp? Why don't the entomb daemons in PA or TA? That would be cool!
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its one of those things you just dont think about

chaos marines honestly wouldnt fight 99% of the battles, it would be LatD minions.
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CSM are like the show cows at the farm while the other cows are getting slaughtered for beef the CSM cows are getting blue ribbons from the judges
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By the way, where do Chaos armies get their armaments and armour?
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By the way, where do Chaos armies get their armaments and armour?
During and after the heresy, Forge Worlds have went rogue, been corrupted, raided, etc.. Nearly 1/4-1/2 the mechanicum, including the Fabricator General, turned to Horus during the heresy.
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they plunder and steal

and a lot of it is from 10000 years ago...

And some Adeptus Mechanicus betrayed the imperium with the CSM so they are chaos forge worlds too
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How about their fleets? Do they make their own or just steal them?
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They steal!

And everytime an imperial shipis lost in the warp where do you thing it goes?

They make their own too. Abbadon had the Planet Killer made in the eye of terror.

PS the defiler is another thing CSM have made in the 10000 years since the heresy!
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I've heard of chaos shipyards. If they have chaos forgeworlds, they can do pretty much anything.
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Speaking of the Planetkiller, what exactly are the Blackstone Fortresses? Who are Arhiman's Cabal? I think I might make him a retinue of sorcerers and call it that.
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Blackstone fortresses are the Talismans of Vaul. Made by the Eldar to defeat C'tans. Abbadon can't even begin to fathom their true power

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So if he unlocks their true power, what then?
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So if he unlocks their true power, what then?
Aiiiie... Bad things.. C'tan goin crazy, Abbadon with more power in his pinky than the Emperors whole body.... Exploding planets, eye of terror consuming galaxy... Bad things.
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So, it's basically bad for the Imperium? Yes, that rocks! Anyhow, how do the sorcerers control the Rubric soldiers?
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Sorcerous powers quite possibly! lol!
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Sorcerous powers quite possibly! lol!
Then why don't they control the minds of their enemies, like the Guardsmen?
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ahrimans cabal - a bunch of the other sorcerers of the legion. ahriman was the chief librarian of the 1000 sons so he was able to recruit a bunch of the others and convinced them to do the ruberic.

even though magnus banned the ruberic he also excilled ahriman and all the sorcerers of his cabal which means for the past 10000 years or so they've been running around with the power and knowledge to make more ruberic marines pretty much anytime they want.

its hard with the new rules but the the current (outgoing) rules you could make ahrimans cabal as an all asp champ/sorcerer chosen squad and have them be ahriman's bodyguard/retinue. i was working on this until i saw the new rules which doesn't alow rets nor chosen marines to be sorcerers. hopefully this will change next year with the deamon/legion codex. that or hopefully gw will be smart and release the legions in the wd/online formats like they did for blood angels. that would be good.

i suppose that you could run ahriman and then for fluff wize say that all your sorcerers in your 1000 son squads are members of the cabal assigned thier own bodyguard ruberic marines..........hmmm that has possibilities.....
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They probably Ebay them from the Emperor or go to his Garge Sales...

uhm, you can have a terminator lord sorcerer
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That is the only way to get terminator sorcerors is with a lord in terminator armor
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T-sons, IIRC, when they repair their rubric marines armor, the soul comes back into it. It would be cool if they could keep making new rubric marines though, like the rubric spell, but on a smaller scale.

I would love to see/use some terminator-armored Rubric Marines.
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There would never be more Rubric Marines made, as Magnus has strictly forbidden it. Wat happened was that Ahriman saw mutations all over the Thousand Sons, so he cast the Rubric of Ahriman, hoping to stop the mutations by sealing the Sons into their armor. This backfired, as every non-psyker marine became a mindless Rubric Marine. Magnus got rather... pissed off would be an understatement, as he had forged the Thousand Sons into a legion of scholar-warriors, who were now nothing but psykers and automatons. Magnus cast Ahriman out, and now Ahriman searches the webway for the Black Library.

Anyway, there will be no more Rubric Marines. What happens is that they repair the armor, or, if strictly necessary, I assume the forge new or steal old armor. They also, apparently, are re-energised with a psyker around, and does anyone know if the pyskers were Rubricked, but retained their minds? That would explain Madox, of SW fame.


EDIT: Oh, right, they don't really control the minds of the Rubricked. They just get... re-energised. And as far as I am aware, they do in fact control other's minds, rarely.
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