ALL TERMIES? Possible? - 40K Terra

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

I want to do a Terminator Army, Nurgle based, is this possible and what suggestions would everyone have?

Warmaster Romulas · 07-26-2007

ide suggest a turned deathwing army that the only way i know to have an all term army

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

that is kind of what i was thinking, but how do you go about it? as far as stats and point alterations?

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 07-26-2007

only way is counts as, and hope your opponent doesnt mind that the great big oozy daemon weapon youre 'daemon prince' has is justa a, um... power weapon

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

lol perhaps i should wait and see the new coded hrm?

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 07-26-2007

i seriously doubt there will be anything in it allowing all termie armies.

i love your idea, since nurgle is my fave chaos god and of all models and troop types termies are my fave (i love stealth suits too, but thats another vice...). with DG yo ucan actually have an all termie army... if you dont mund having 6 bases of nurglings.

no wait, those do not count as your comp troops (i think). hmm. 2 squads opf 5 marines can be takes, allowing you the spend the rest of your points on termies. i know its less than ideal, but id stay away from imperial lists (especially a special codex one like DA) since counting imperial termies as chaos (cult ones, at that) is a bit of a stretch i think

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

yea, i knew i'd have to take a few others as well, but to be honest that isnt all that big of a problem. maybe plague marines or some such and of course some plaguebearers....

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 07-26-2007

plaguebearers, doh!

a great choice. theyre cheap for DG armies; count as your troops and support the termies really well.

dont rely on their special rules though as those will quickly be replaced once the new codex and its markless daemons comes out. also im not sure id daemons will count as compulsory troop choices since they dont take up slots

to be honest id wait the two months for the book to come out. its not that long a wait anyway, and i doubt youre in that much of a hurry to get started anyway. if you really cant wait, start converting termies...oh no, there new PLASTIC ones on the way! oh what a cruel mistress GW is!

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

personally I prefer the old metal termies (on both sides of the line) stiffer poses yes, but cooler models all around.

And yea, while I am starting to amass a few chaos termies, i am going to wait to get the new codex to put my list together.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 07-26-2007

the new ones are bigger than the metal ones with the same details! blasphemer! lol but if its converting youre thinking of (and sicne theyre going to be dedicated to uncle nurgle, THEY BETTER BE HEAVY ON THE GREEN STUF... GOT ME?

yeah, it really is a waste of time beginning an army when the new codex is right around the corner. youll end up buying the new models anyway, and its best to start with the new rules otherwise youll get really confused. thats what heppened to me when i went beack to my nids a few months before the 4th edition codex came out... crazy stuff!

i

SteveBerenyi · 07-26-2007

not by much are they bigger, and the only real problem i see is that the old ones come with 25mm bases and not 40mm bases..... :P

But yea, GS is a must for nurgle termies. I did get my hands on a Typhus though and that should be fun to play with.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 07-26-2007

i dont know what you mean about size. iver glued up many a termie in my day, and ive just finished a mojor conversion job on my DIY termie command squad and ive got an old metal termie on standby for scale issules (long story) and tthe new plactic ones dwarf the old one, but other than that and the addition of greaves to the armour, theyre exactly the same. the chaos one are no different. theyve got trophy racks, the same shoulder pads with the big skulls and the helmets with ram horns and tusks. theyre just a lot bigger. put it this way, anyone who knows his minis will know youre mixing metal and new plastic ones from a mile away, though if the GS is heavy and the current ones are extended a bit and (goes without saying) put on 40mm round bases, they should be ok

Biadetic · 10-19-2007

an all termie army? play Apocalypse !

although... i think thats like near 10,000pts at some stage and thats alot of termies :-)

liveevil2000 · 03-14-2008

30 terminators with a fair amount of wargear and it leaves you with enough to include Typhus and 2 squads of plague marines(bare no wargear)

Aldonis · 03-25-2008

Yep - with the new Codex - you are limited to a max of 30 Termies - 3 squads of 10.

Still need your mandatory Troop choices - probably Death Guard

Typhus or a Termy Lord/Sorcerer for HQ.

Can round out with Heavy Support - Land Raiders would fit.....

SteveBerenyi · 03-30-2008

the new datasheet out of WD would do awesome

typhus, 4 termie lords and 50 termies for 2500 pts!

Word Bearer 81007 · 03-30-2008

hell yeah steve that's what i'm talking about with orbital death on top of it. that is so cool.

Brother Warchild · 03-30-2008

Is there a link to that new datasheet? The 2500pys one.

r4wr89 · 03-30-2008

iiiiiii think they're going up on the USGW site...though i'm not sure. inside WD for sure [the one with the sneak peak of daemons on the back cover/the latest edition]..

right now it look slike there's only this one [200+model points]
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/4...erminators.pdf

:]
hopefully those new datasheets, along with promised new ones just about monthly, will arrive and be posted online somewhere !

Word Bearer 81007 · 03-30-2008

i would have to agree i can't find one either hopefully they put it up.

Brother Warchild · 03-30-2008

Yeah i have seen that one just havent got my new WD yet.Hopefully they slap that bad boy up somewhere soon.

SteveBerenyi · 03-31-2008

the chaos conclave is basically this: 200+models

1 named character
4-6 other named characters, Daemon Princes, Chaos Lords, Chaos Sorcerers
1 Squad of Chosen OR Termies PER CHARACTER

every character counts as a mobile disruptor beacon.

quite cool IMHO

SteveBerenyi · 04-01-2008

DP sorry, but i have this to ask, would a DA Deathwing force painted in Nurgle colors work?

anyone?

Ravel Advice · 04-02-2008

Well, it would look nice if you did it right, but it wouldn't play as very "nurgley", or for that matter, "chaosy". I think your best bet is probably to go for two minimum size marine squads, then back them up with termies. If you love them enough to take the army up to apocalypse size, then all termies is definitely viable, and has a couple of nice datasheets to go with it.

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	ALL TERMIES? Possible? I want to do a Terminator Army, Nurgle based, is this possible and what suggestions would everyone have?

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Warmaster Romulas Major Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!!U-S-A!! Posts: 1,771 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 204 Thanked 122 Times in 96 Posts	ide suggest a turned deathwing army that the only way i know to have an all term army __________________ ""A true patriot is a lover of his country who rebukes and does not excuse its sins." Frederick Douglass "A toll is a toll, and a roll is a roll, if we dont get no tolls then we dont eat no rolls" Little John Robin Hood: Men in Tights CLICK HERE TO SEE My July Painting Comp Entry Chaplain Charlie

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liveevil2000 Master of Evil Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 187 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 10 Thanked 25 Times in 17 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? 30 terminators with a fair amount of wargear and it leaves you with enough to include Typhus and 2 squads of plague marines(bare no wargear)

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Aldonis Conscript Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tennessee, USA Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 8 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? Yep - with the new Codex - you are limited to a max of 30 Termies - 3 squads of 10. Still need your mandatory Troop choices - probably Death Guard Typhus or a Termy Lord/Sorcerer for HQ. Can round out with Heavy Support - Land Raiders would fit..... __________________ "There is no such thing as a plea of innocence in my court. A plea of innocence is guilty of waisting my time. Guilty."

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? the new datasheet out of WD would do awesome typhus, 4 termie lords and 50 termies for 2500 pts! __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	that is kind of what i was thinking, but how do you go about it? as far as stats and point alterations?

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DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	only way is counts as, and hope your opponent doesnt mind that the great big oozy daemon weapon youre 'daemon prince' has is justa a, um... power weapon

07-26-2007	#5 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	lol perhaps i should wait and see the new coded hrm?

07-26-2007	#6 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	i seriously doubt there will be anything in it allowing all termie armies. i love your idea, since nurgle is my fave chaos god and of all models and troop types termies are my fave (i love stealth suits too, but thats another vice...). with DG yo ucan actually have an all termie army... if you dont mund having 6 bases of nurglings. no wait, those do not count as your comp troops (i think). hmm. 2 squads opf 5 marines can be takes, allowing you the spend the rest of your points on termies. i know its less than ideal, but id stay away from imperial lists (especially a special codex one like DA) since counting imperial termies as chaos (cult ones, at that) is a bit of a stretch i think

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SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	yea, i knew i'd have to take a few others as well, but to be honest that isnt all that big of a problem. maybe plague marines or some such and of course some plaguebearers....

07-26-2007	#8 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	plaguebearers, doh! a great choice. theyre cheap for DG armies; count as your troops and support the termies really well. dont rely on their special rules though as those will quickly be replaced once the new codex and its markless daemons comes out. also im not sure id daemons will count as compulsory troop choices since they dont take up slots to be honest id wait the two months for the book to come out. its not that long a wait anyway, and i doubt youre in that much of a hurry to get started anyway. if you really cant wait, start converting termies...oh no, there new PLASTIC ones on the way! oh what a cruel mistress GW is!

07-26-2007	#9 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	personally I prefer the old metal termies (on both sides of the line) stiffer poses yes, but cooler models all around. And yea, while I am starting to amass a few chaos termies, i am going to wait to get the new codex to put my list together.

07-26-2007	#10 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	the new ones are bigger than the metal ones with the same details! blasphemer! lol but if its converting youre thinking of (and sicne theyre going to be dedicated to uncle nurgle, THEY BETTER BE HEAVY ON THE GREEN STUF... GOT ME? yeah, it really is a waste of time beginning an army when the new codex is right around the corner. youll end up buying the new models anyway, and its best to start with the new rules otherwise youll get really confused. thats what heppened to me when i went beack to my nids a few months before the 4th edition codex came out... crazy stuff! i

07-26-2007	#11 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	not by much are they bigger, and the only real problem i see is that the old ones come with 25mm bases and not 40mm bases..... :P But yea, GS is a must for nurgle termies. I did get my hands on a Typhus though and that should be fun to play with.

07-26-2007	#12 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	i dont know what you mean about size. iver glued up many a termie in my day, and ive just finished a mojor conversion job on my DIY termie command squad and ive got an old metal termie on standby for scale issules (long story) and tthe new plactic ones dwarf the old one, but other than that and the addition of greaves to the armour, theyre exactly the same. the chaos one are no different. theyve got trophy racks, the same shoulder pads with the big skulls and the helmets with ram horns and tusks. theyre just a lot bigger. put it this way, anyone who knows his minis will know youre mixing metal and new plastic ones from a mile away, though if the GS is heavy and the current ones are extended a bit and (goes without saying) put on 40mm round bases, they should be ok

10-19-2007	#13 (permalink)
Biadetic Corporal Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 365 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	an all termie army? play Apocalypse ! although... i think thats like near 10,000pts at some stage and thats alot of termies :-)

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Word Bearer 81007 Sergeant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pueblo, colorado (hell) Posts: 569 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 19 Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? hell yeah steve that's what i'm talking about with orbital death on top of it. that is so cool. __________________ The Armies Points W/L/D Fallen Dark Angels 3000pts. 3/2/1 Imperial Guard 3500pts. (no doctrine) 0/0/1 Daemon Hunters 1,000pts. 0/0/0 I need to play more My Battle with Fuegan http://www.40kterra.com/forums/f195/...arer-6808.html

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Brother Warchild Lodge Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 2,515 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 656 Thanked 261 Times in 199 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? Is there a link to that new datasheet? The 2500pys one. __________________ Check out the Librarium and the Battlefield My Stuff ( links ) Lupercal! A truescale Luna Wolf's W.I.P Wolves of Fenris A Space Wolve's W.I.P Death Guard, Land Raider W.I.P Legion of the Damned W.I.P Tricks of the Trade

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Word Bearer 81007 Sergeant Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: pueblo, colorado (hell) Posts: 569 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 19 Thanked 23 Times in 19 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? i would have to agree i can't find one either hopefully they put it up. __________________ The Armies Points W/L/D Fallen Dark Angels 3000pts. 3/2/1 Imperial Guard 3500pts. (no doctrine) 0/0/1 Daemon Hunters 1,000pts. 0/0/0 I need to play more My Battle with Fuegan http://www.40kterra.com/forums/f195/...arer-6808.html

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Brother Warchild Lodge Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fenris-AKA-Olympia Washington Posts: 2,515 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 656 Thanked 261 Times in 199 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? Yeah i have seen that one just havent got my new WD yet.Hopefully they slap that bad boy up somewhere soon. __________________ Check out the Librarium and the Battlefield My Stuff ( links ) Lupercal! A truescale Luna Wolf's W.I.P Wolves of Fenris A Space Wolve's W.I.P Death Guard, Land Raider W.I.P Legion of the Damned W.I.P Tricks of the Trade

03-31-2008	#22 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? the chaos conclave is basically this: 200+models 1 named character 4-6 other named characters, Daemon Princes, Chaos Lords, Chaos Sorcerers 1 Squad of Chosen OR Termies PER CHARACTER every character counts as a mobile disruptor beacon. quite cool IMHO __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4

04-01-2008	#23 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi Just A Regular Joe. Again Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,518 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 194 Thanked 252 Times in 159 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? DP sorry, but i have this to ask, would a DA Deathwing force painted in Nurgle colors work? anyone? __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 5 / 1 / 4

04-02-2008	#24 (permalink)
Ravel Advice Conscript Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 7 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: ALL TERMIES? Possible? Well, it would look nice if you did it right, but it wouldn't play as very "nurgley", or for that matter, "chaosy". I think your best bet is probably to go for two minimum size marine squads, then back them up with termies. If you love them enough to take the army up to apocalypse size, then all termies is definitely viable, and has a couple of nice datasheets to go with it.

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