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Blog Entries: 5 |  One last time... Keep in mind when reading this, a few things... One is I am facing off against wolfpack most regularly.. So I need a nice rounded force... Two, I wanted the army to accurately reflect my Chapters fluff rather than be powergame/winner set up.. So if some squads (especially elites and HQ) seem off... Take that into consideration. Thirdly, I had intended to make my own traits. But they are a BA successor... With a twist of course, but you've no reason to know that! So I decided to use the BA codex. Another is the fact that I am using the SM Battle Co. to build this force.. I'm already getting 6 tactical squads.. So I intend to use them. With combat squads, the devs will split in half, and the half w/ out the sarge will shoto about in the razorback, the half with will be stop gap and counter assault units! I also already have a SWEET Blood Angels Chapter banner, so I decided to use their new Codex. This was also under rather unqiue motivational suggestions from our own wolfpack, so I finally hammered the list out... Total... I'll need.. only 25 over the battle company amount for assault marines (mainly for honor guard, veteran assault, and Death Co.), 15 termies (10 shooty, 5 Assault), a dread(furioso d-c), three landspeeders, three vindicators, a bike squad, and two whirlwinds! Oh, and 5+ drop pods!!! Now, onto the list! Please, Stitch, though I may not take all your suggestions, do your usual take and chew up/spit out/rip apart.. I rather appreciate the honesty, and sometimes it helps to know where my fluffy gaming aspects will give me trouble, so i'm aware of weaknesses!! The Triumvirate, Lords of the Chapter Adonis, Lord Crusader: 100 + 20 + 25 + 15 = 175 pts. Frag & Krak, Plasma Pistol, Lightning Claws, Iron Halo, Power Armor, Jet Pack Remus, the Sinner: Counts as Mephiston, Lord of Death. 225 Pts. Frag & Krak, Plasma Pistol, Force Weapon, Psychic Hood, Artificier Armor, Antonious the Warp Slayer: Counts As Chaplain Lemartes, Guardian of the Lost. 125 pts. Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Crozius Arcanum, Rosarius, Death Mask, Power Armor, Jump Pack 525 pts. Total Equerrys of the Triumvirate, Speakers of the Lords Chief Apothecary Diocletian the Bloody, Equerry to the Lord Crusader: 100 pts. Counts As Brother Corbulo: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Chain Sword, Exsanguinator, The Red Grail, Power Armor Senior Epistolary Romulous the Confessor, Equerry to Remus the Sinner, Librarian: 120 + 25 = 125 pts. Force Weapon, Psychic Hood, Terminator Armor, Storm Bolter, Wings of Sanguinius, Might of Heroes Brother Darius the Preacher, Equerry to the Slayer Chaplain: 100 + 30 + 15 = 145 pts. Space Marine (jet)Bike, Frag & Krak, Plasma Pistol, Rosarius, Crozius Arcanum, Power Armor -Lords of the Council, the Nephilim- Keepers of the Standard Honor Guard: 125 + 25 + 10 + 25 + 30 + 30 = 245 pts. Honor Guard: Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, Frag & Krak, Jump Pack Honor Guard: Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, Frag & Krak, Jump Pack, Company Standard Honor Guard(2x): Plasma Pistol, Chainsword, Frag & Krak, Jump Pack Honor Guard(Company Champion): Power Weapon, Combat Shield, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack, Frag & Krak Guardians of the Shrine Veteran Assault Squad: 150 + 30 + 30 + 50 = 260 Veteran Marine: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Armor, Jump Pack, Lightning Claws (dual wielded swords), Combat Shield Veteran Marine: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Armor, Jump Pack, Thunder Hammer, Combat Shield Veteran Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Armor, Jump Pack, Combat Shield, Close Combat Weapon The Mortales Praetor (Death Guardians, Body Guard of the Triumvirate, and the Chapter Council, Lords in their own right)[Baron.. I didn't steal this name from you, did I.. it's soo familiar]: Guard Squad Alpha Terminator Squad: 200 + 30 + 50 = 280 pts. Terminator Sergeant: Storm Bolter, Power Sword, Terminator Armor Terminator(2x): Storm Bolter, Power Fist, Terminator Armor Terminator: Storm Bolter, Chain Fist, Terminator Armor Terminator: Assault Cannon, Power Fist, Terminator Armor Drop Pod Guard Squad Beta Terminator Squad: 200 + 30 + 50 = 280 pts. Terminator Sergeant: Storm Bolter, Power Sword, Terminator Armor Terminator(2x): Storm Bolter, Power Fist, Terminator Armor Terminator: Storm Bolter, Chain Fist, Terminator Armor Terminator: Assault Cannon, Power Fist, Terminator Armor Drop Pod Guard Squad Omega Terminator Squad: 200 + 50 = 250 pts. Terminator Sergeant: Lightning Claws Terminator(2x): Lightning Claws Terminator(2x): Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield Drop Pod Venerable Brother Nero, First Lord of the Council Furioso Death Co. Dreadnought: 100 + 25 + 5 + 50 +15 = 195 pts. Two Dreadnought CCW(meltagun/heavy flamer), Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight The Remnant.. Or, the Faithful. The Blessed- Those called to Sanguinius. Death Company: +5 * 15 = 75 pts. Death Company(15x): Frag & Krak, Jump Pack, Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Power Armor. (Fearless, Feel No Pain, Furious Charge, Black Rage) Death Company 'Free' Tally: 15 Here is the question on these... The unit entry says you may purchase extra Death Company @ +X pts. each as long as the number of models in the uni does not exceed 10... Does that mean the Entire squad is capped at ten? Because it says no where about a squad cap, it only says you may PURCHASE... So, if they are freely generated DC.. Do I keep them even if they exceed 10? The Seraphim- New Initiates to the flock of Sanguinius Scouts Squad: 80 + 20 + 20 = 120 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Scout Armor, Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Sniper Rifle Scout(3x): Frag & Krak, Scout Armor, Bolt Pistol, Sniper Rifle Scout: Frag and Krak, Bolt Pistol, Scout Armor, Missile Launcher The Crimen Vesica, Bloody Sword of the Primarch Bike Squadron: 110 + 5 + 5 +15 = 135 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Sword, Space Marine Bike, Power Armor Biker: Space Marine Bike(flamer), Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Land Speeder Squadrons Aurum (the Golden) Lande Speeder: 65 + 35 = 95 pts. Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon Land Speeder Squadron 'Incendia Telum', the Burning Lance Landspeeder: 65 + 10 + 10 = 85 pts. Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer, Typhoon Missile Launcher Assault Squad Vereor(fear): 115 + 110 + 15 + 15 + 15 + 15 = 285 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Power Armor, Jump Pack, Plasma Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon Assault Marine(2x): Power Armor, Jump Pack, Plasma Pistol, Frag & Krak, Chainsword Assault Marine(7x): Power Armor, Jump Pack, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Chainsword Assault Squad Nex(death) 115 + 110 + 25 = 250 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Power Armor, Jump Pack, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Fist Assault Marine(9x): Power Armor, Jump Pack, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Chainsword
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Blog Entries: 5 | Tactical Squad Lacertus(Strength): 115 + 75 + 15 + 15 + 60(40+15+5) = 280 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, Power Armor Space Marine: Plasma Gun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Rhino: Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, Smoker Launchers, Searchlight, Pintle-mounted Storm bolter Tactical Squad Decus(Honor): 115 + 75 + 15 + 15 + 60(40+15+5)= 280 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon, Power Armor Space Marine: Plasma Gun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Rhino: Extra Armor, Storm Bolter, Smoker Launchers, Searchlight, Pintle-mounted Storm bolter Tactical Squad Ira(Wrath): 115 + 75 + 25 + 10 + 50 = 275 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armor Space Marine: Melta Gun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Drop Pod Tactical Squad Sanctus(Holy): 115 + 75 + 25 + 10 + 50 = 275 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armor Space Marine: Melta Gun, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Drop Pod Tactical Squad Virtus(Noble): 115 + 75 + 25 + 5 + 50 = 270 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armor Space Marine: Flamer, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Drop Pod Tactical Squad Fortis(Steadfast): 115 + 75 + 25 + 5 + 50 = 270 pts. Veteran Sargeant: Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Power Fist, Power Armor Space Marine: Flamer, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Power Armor Space Marine(8x): Frag & Krak, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Armor Drop Pod Devastator Squad Diripio(Devastate): 115 + 75 + 75 + 80 + 15 = 360 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Power Armor, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol Space Marine(4x): Missile Launcher, Bolt Pistol, Power Armor, Frag & Krak Space Marine(5x): Power Armor, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Bolter Razorback: Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Extra Armor, Dozer Blade, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight. 75 pts. Devastator Squad Attero(Destroy) 115 + 75 + 75 + 60 + 15 = 340 pts. Veteran Sergeant: Power Armor, Frag & Krak, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol Space Marine(4x): Heavy Bolter, Bolt Pistol, Power Armor, Frag & Krak Space Marine(5x): Power Armor, Bolt Pistol, Frag & Krak, Bolter Razorback: Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Extra Armor, Dozer Blade, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter, Smoke Launcher, Searchlight. 75 pts. Linebreaker Squadron 'Imperator Ultionis'(Emperors Revenge) 125 + 15 + 5 x 3 = 435 Vindicator(3x): Storm Bolter, Demolisher Cannon, Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight Supression Force 'Magnus Sterilis' (Big Barrage!) Land Speeder Squadron 'Inflexi' (Bow) Lande Speeder: 65 + 35 = 95 pts. Heavy Bolter, Assault Cannon Whirwinds 'Telum' and 'Calamus' (Arrow) 85 + 5 + 15 = 105 pts. each Whirlwind Missile Launcher, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolter, Extra Armor Baal Predator 'Cruor Tempestas' (Blood Storm) 100 + 10 + 15 + 25 = 150 pts. Twin-Linked Assault Cannons, Smoke Launchers, Over Charged Engines, Pintle-Mounted Storm Bolters, Extra Armor, Heavy Bolter Sponsons Thunderhawk 'Divum Rabies'(Sky Fury) 900 + 20= 920 pts. Turbo-Laser Destructor, 4x Twin Linked Heavy Bolters, 2x Lascannons, 6x Bomb Pylons Thunderhawk 'Divum Nex'(Sky Death) 900 pts. Thunderhawk Cannon, 4x Twin Linked Heavy Bolters, 2x Lascannons, 6x Hellstrike Missiles ***May possibly be changed depending on the Forgeworld Apoc book and the drop pod spear tip and such things! Other than that, I see nothing else to add!!!*** EDIT: total points: 8,415... Damn.. Still Short of Wolfpack by a little bit... HE's got about 15K w/ titans.. DAMN.. 10K in troops alone. More assault marines maybe?
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| Before I edit this post once I reviewed the list (and had some food)... you might recognise the Mortales Praetor as the Mortales Praetorians are a renegade chapter of the Order of Knights Penitent. |
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@Wakim: Yeah, only one.. I may add two.. But BA spawned forces aren't famed for dreads (near death USUALLY results in black rage)... These are a sucessor. I suppose I could always pop one more in. I'm really waiting on the FW apoc book there though.. The 'Force of the Ancients' sounds tasty.. BTW... In the Apoc book, it shows the Battle Co. data sheet pic as having everything in Rhinos.. But the actual composition says nothing about it.. Just that you need tactical squads.. So... do I have to use the rhinos/razorbacks for the command squad/rhinos.... Or could I not?
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Blog Entries: 9  | Regarding the thing about the death company (in italics). IF you BUY any of them (points wise) they cant go above 10. IF you dont buy any and they are all free from the squads you can have as many as you like, You may purchase the jump packs without affeccting the unit number. This is explained in the FAQ in the back of the downloadable codex Blood Angels. I think you could get away without the Rhino's/Razorback's but dont you get 9 chassis with the battle company box, if you bought it dont let them go to waste. The death company can have jump packs, this doesnt affect the unit size. However if you buy any death company the unit limit becomes 10, if you do not purchase any death company there is no unit limit. therefore if you have 15 tactical squads you get 15 death Company, but if you have 6 tactical squads and buy 4 death company thats it you cant have any more. This is on the FAQ at the back of the downloadable codex. i would suggest Attack bikes! i love em sooo useful for 50pts but if you havnt got money for 6000pts of attack bikes (I WANT THIS!) then go for the assault troops. Last edited by Lord Commander Erus; 12-12-2007 at 10:22 AM. Reason: double post, no worries... |
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Blog Entries: 9 | balls did i type that twice damnit >.< I still say 6000pts of attack bikes is the way to go! Use a linebreaker squadron and the pred assassin squadron, also while your at it bring more guns than the other guy hope for trees as terrain and use anti plant barrage. i have used this when i was allied with a tank company SOOOOO effective but then again i was just charging so i took all the shots. i had 1 squad left after that game and it was a termie squad  ooo the fun.Anyways good luck. |
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| Well, the only thing I'd say is to take the power sword off the sergeant in the Dev squad because if they get into combat, you're in trouble anyway... I'd also get a Predator Annihilator or two. Or, like you said, go for the assassin squad (but then you have to shoot at one target until it's dead! not that that would be a problem with 9 lascannons...), but I guess you do have that linebreaker squadron... Other than that, it looks awesome! I would help more, but I know very little about Apoc.
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| Nice looking lists buddy i like the strength and balance
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Blog Entries: 5 | Woudl the baal pred work for one of the assassin tanks?
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| ummm...am thinkin that they all have to be the same type...
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As for something involving death... Guardians of Death? Keepers of the Dead? Masters of the Crypt? Just some ideas.
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As for the terminators.. Good ideas.. Good ideas..
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| Re: One last time... i would have to say excellent composition. remember that you can never have enough lightning claws on the vets, you may want to take all of your assualters as vets...but getting that many lightning claws may be hazardous. Baals make very good anti tank and infantry, but they need lots of lascannon support. i agree drop any excess power weapons unless you are searching for points. also you may want a small contingent of Techmarines for the number of vehicles. (a baneblade converted to the blood thirsty might of sanguinus may also be a good investment if you plan on fighting titans and such.
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Blog Entries: 5 | Re: One last time... There will be now, after some advice, the addition of a techmarine, and here is now my question... After my Chapter's internal schism and war, all that remains is a few squads of scouts, and the first company... Should I take all veteran assault marines, or no?
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