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  |  Highlander army list Lately I have been studying a lot about William Wallace and the scottish army that he lead against the british and I started to wonder, is it viable to do in warhammer? I thought to myself, hell yeah, but how do I go about doin it? So, I come to my fellow forum members and ask you for your advice. What models should I use? I will post up my ideas for the army list coming up shortly and i will always just edit this post for the list updates.
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| The Idea sounds really good, mabey you could use the empire, plus you would have to make the musictions bag pipers just to fit in, oh and don't forget the kilts
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| Great swords... no knights (a few outriders), mostly spear-men (not halberds, spears), and some archers.
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| I was thinking using Empire state troops stats such as swordsmen and spearmen to represent Scottish Line rank and file troops and then making a highland unit up and havind their own list and all that. Now, I like outriders for light cav, but there is the problem of gunpowder which I am not going to be using.
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Blog Entries: 1 | seems to me that the middenhiem list has a bit of a highland t**** to it. plenty of skirmishing archers and huntsmen, foot soldiers with great weapons (thinking about claymores here). might be just the ticket.
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| Actaully, Scottland had a quite effective cavalry force. It just wasnt' HEAVY cavalry, so it was disregarded by most history writers of the time. So a small unit of Knights would work. I don't know much about Fantasy, but I am an expert at Scottish history during the time of Robert the Bruce/ William Wallace (Lugaid of Cork, Bannerman to the Bruce, Lieutenant of the Kingsguard at your service!) so I can fill you in/guide your lists once they are made. A cool idea would be to do every unit in kilts with different colors to represent clans. But please, for the Gods sake please, do not put them in woad (the blue face paint). The Woad plant was nearly dead by William Wallaces time, and certainly wasn't used on the face. Damn you Mel Gibson! |
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| I wasnt planning on doing them in woad but yes, kilts modelled with green stuff painted to represent different clans was the plan! I am so glad we have an expert here and i was thinkin of making a light cav unit to represent the scottish cavalry!
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| ah come on at least one has to have woad. as im pretty sure a recent watching of brave heart must have brought this idea around. not the best on scottish history but i do know a few things about medieval warfare. in the ore poor grounds of scotland a good sword is something a wee bit hard to come across and just the ability to be able to claim one was a mark of station. so alot of spears and if possible make the first two ranks have really long spears as the scottish are known for their use of pikes. in ranged warfare i do believe that the scottish had a tendency to use crossbows instead of the bow. i would think it would be the preferred weapon of the scottish in keeping with their pictish ancestory. saddly im basing this off of what i believe not what i know your definetly going to have to include a unit of greatswords to represent the awesome power of the scottish noble's claymore. they had cavalry just not heavy calvary which would prove useless in the mountainous lands of the north. so a definet form of light calvary is usefull. your best bet would be to use a knightly order and just keep a small unit of them around your leader. thats all for now
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| With some converting I suppose you could use Outriders with crossbows... not sure how that would work. Perhaps house rules for light calvary? Oh, and although I don't know a lot about Scotland during that era, I did read a book on Robert the Bruce about a year ago for school... and it didn't mention crossbows, but it did say shortbows... Oh, and spears would be used a lot, as they were used against the English Knights to deadly effect.
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| I know, spearmen are going to be in large amount in this army! I am going to have a lot of fun doing this army! I will be posting up beta rules in an hour!
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Blog Entries: 1 | the rules for pikes and light cav can be found in the dogs of war list. heres a link http://uk.games-workshop.com/dogsofwar/lists/
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| Ya, I just looked at it... its good. While you could use an Empire army, the Dog's of War list does have pikemen (who you could say are spearmen) and light calvary as core choices... Crossbows could be used as "count-as" shortbow dudes.
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| I was thinking about a DoW but I dont think it fits because of the Paymaster thing. I dont think that fits in with the Highlanders coming down to win their freedom. They wouldnt be getting paid for it.....
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| Besides... with a bit of tweaking/converting, you can make the paymaster something else... not sure what, but, use your imagination!
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| Well, that is a useful bit of information about the highlanders! I didnt know they came down for money! I guess I can see the paymaster thing now, but then, anyone have an idea as to how to make a William Wallace?
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| I dont know if that fully portrays William Wallace though. I mean it kind of does but I dont think that would serve him justice!
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 ), nor have I read much about him...Perhaps an extra special paint job?
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| Trust me, that would not do him justice......... Now about the light cav. how was scottish light cav armed?
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| So, here is what I have so far! Tell me what you think! Lords; William Wallace Scottish Noble (General from DOW list) Heros; Commander (Mercenary Captain) Priest (will have stats at a later date) Core; Scottish Pike (Pikemen from DoW list) Scottish Light Cav (Light Cav from DoW list) Scottish Archers (use Archers from empire army book) Special; Highlanders Scottish Crossbow (crossbowmen from empire army book) Rare; Spend Rare choice to receive another Special choice William Wallace: 350 points M WS BS S T W I A LD 4 8 4 4 4 4 5 5 10 Weapons and Armor: Great Weapon, Light Armor, Rocks Special Rules: Throw Rock, Inspiring, Iron Will, Protective Aura Throw Rock; As a charge reaction, William Wallace can throw a rock at the charging unit, the rock goes off of his BS and S values. Inspiring: All friendly units within 12" of Wallace are immune to psychology Iron Will: When Wallace suffers his final wound, roll a D6. On a Roll of a 1-2, Wallace is down, but on 3-5 he gets back up with 2 wounds, and on a 6 he gets back up with 3 wounds remaining. Protective Aura: Wallace has a 4+ Ward Save Great Weapon: Wallace does not strike last with his great weapon and instead goes off of his initiative value. Highlanders; Pts/model, 10 M WS BS S T W I A LD 4 4 3 4 4 1 3 1 9 Weapons and Armor: Great Weapon, Bow, Light Armor Options: May Take a musician for +6 points May Take a Banner Bearer for +12 points May Take a unit champion (+1 to WS and A) for +12 points Thats what I have for now, I will be adding more later! So, what do you think thus far? P.S. Here is a link to the Dogs of War list! http://us.games-workshop.com/games/w...ar/default.htm
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| That would be great! I really need those names!
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