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| Primer   Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton,Canada
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|  2 eldar army lists Hey guys, I'm pretty much completely new to whk40 and have been amassing materials and units to start my first game! so far I've got my hands on: 10 guardians+weapon platform 13 dire avengers+2 exarchs 5 howling banshees+1 exarch 1 wave serpent 1 war walker 1 autarch /w wings,powerblade,and reaper launcher My main opponents and only friends(battle-ranch!) who play whk40 will be fielding black templar armies and necron armies respectively, as a group we're all new to the game. Now I've made a 750 point list using what I have and a 1500 point list for future plans and was wondering if anyone could give me pointers/tips/all out criticism 750 point Eldar army: HQ: 1 Autarch /w swoophawk wings,mandi blasters, powerblade, and reaper launcher Troops: 10 Guardians /w starcannon heavy weapons platform 10 Dire Avengers /w Exarch, Dual Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm, and Defend Elites: 6 Howling Banshees /w Exarch, Mirrorswords, acrobatics, warshout Heavy Support: 1 warwalker /w 2 missle launchers and spirit stones Transport: 1 wave serpent /w spirit stones, scatter laser, star engines Total: 750 points on the dot Well I don't know much about tatics but the transport goes with the banshees to either flank the opponent or attack any vunrable spot while everything else lays out support fire... ya simple could probably use help in the tatics department... 1500 point Eldar army HQ: 1 Autarch /w swoophawk wings,mandi blasters, powerblade, and reaper launcher 1 Farseer /w spirit stones, guide, and doom Troops: 10 Dire Avengers /w Exarch, Dual Shuriken Catapults, Bladestorm, and Defend 5 Pathfinders Elites: 10 Howling Banshees /w Exarch, Mirrorswords, acrobatics, warshout + Wave serpent /w spirit stones and a scatter laser 6 fire dragons /w exarch, dragon flamer, tankhunter Heavy Support: 1 falcon /w spirit stones, holofields, starcannon 5 dark reapers /w exarch Fast Attack: 5 swooping hawks /w exarch, skyleap, intercept, sunrifle Total: 1501! Ya I'm one point over wonder how to shave it off....suggestions? For strategy pretty much load the banshees and fire dragons in their taxis drive em in to heavy infantry/tanks respectively and start shooting with support fire from the path finders and swooping hawks and dark reapers while the dire avengers close in for the kill. Any thoughts, suggestions criticism will be welcome also any tatical advice appreciated as well. cheers mates..... and rock on! |
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I think the inclusion of a Fprism is something to think about. Bladestorming Dires are great for covering fire with18" range as your Banshees get into combat. maybe bring your FD in Falcon in as a reserve as you can pick out which enemy tank you want to target. Eldar are tough to work out how to use, but when you have they are a very strong army. You have to get units working together and create small combos as each unit is very specailised and very good at what it does, but on the otherside of the coin it usually means they are very weak at something else so can be exposed by the enemy. You will probably lose your first lot of games before you get a grip on how to use them. But when you do.... Last edited by Mart007; 10-22-2007 at 04:38 AM. | |
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| first off, welcome aboard! always good to see another brother canuck.  Quote:
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The point about the Dragons in the WS is unesessary as you will be transporting them in the Falcon, which with the StCa will give enough cover. | |
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 )the pulse laser is also a bit redundant for the dragons; more anti-infantry is what they need... i find that dragons tend to run off on their own alot in order to hunt the nastier enemy tanks such as hidden basilisks, 'sit and fire' predators or leman russ, hammerheads, other eldar tanks such as the dreaded fire prisim... mind you, you could always simply support the dragons & falcon with say, a unit of shining spears?! those boys are friggin' insane. give the exarch the 'withdraw' power to break-off from combat in your opponent's turn so they can charge again in your turn! cheers!
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Blog Entries: 1 | I dont disagree tbh, the SS is a good idea as well you could even use standard guardian bikes to distract and cause a nuisance if points are tight. Keep the Banshees in the Wave Serpent though that’s makes them very manoeuvrable and a lot safer for keeping the squad strong for when they assault. |
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| Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton,Canada
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| Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys, hmmmm looks like I gotta work out my list a lil more, for the autarch how would i go about getting a fusion gun? My blister only came with a shuri pistol,power blade,wings and reaper launcher, also alot of the recomendations are awsome but I need a way to trim the fat to fit them in anything I should drop? :UPDATE: Well I've tinkered with the 1500 point list a little bit and this is what I came up with I feel the army has more of a streamlined feel to it and more of a strategy. 1500 point Eldar army HQ: 1 Autarch /w swoophawk wings,mandi blasters, powerblade, and fusion gun (figured i'd have an extra from fire dragons) 1 Farseer /w spirit stones, guide, doom, and runes of witnessing Troops: 10 Dire Avengers /w Exarch, Dual Shuriken Catapults, and Bladestorm 6 Dire Avengers /w Exarch 5 Pathfinders Elites: 10 Howling Banshees /w Exarch, Mirrorswords, acrobatics, warshout + Wave serpent /w spirit stones and a scatter laser 6 Fire dragons /w Exarch, dragon flamer, tankhunter Heavy Support: 1 Falcon /w spirit stones, holofields, scatterlaser 1 Wraithlord /w starcannon and wraith sword Fast Attack: 6 Swooping Hawks /w exarch, skyleap, intercept, sunrifle Total: 1499 Now keep in mind my main opponents will be black templar space marines and necrons. I dropped the dark reapers feeling they pulled my army in a diffrent direction (making them static) and for there heavy points cost instead I opted for a wraithlord to take there place for a slightly more mobile powerhouse, I upgraded the swooping hawks to 6 on the advice of everyone but could not find the points to do so for the rangers, I also took advice on the equipment choices for my hq units. I dropped defend and opted for a second unit of dire avengers in the army although they lack numbers and bladestorm they are more for bait. The basic strategy of my army is for the autarch to accompany the hawks and on harassing infantry and slagging vehicles, going solo or supporting my firedragons should the hawks sky leap. The fire dragons rush into the rear to slag any vehicles they can get there hands on while the exarch and falcon keep infantry off them or lacking any targets help slag tanks, the banshees run into any heavy infantry and chop them up with backup fire from their wave serpent, all of these forces are my intial attack team and try to weaken the enemy take out priorty targets and push them towards my base units. The pathfinders basically duck for cover and shoot high priority targets such as hq units or pin down infantry, while the farseer coupled with the wraithlord and two sqauds of dire avengers act as my base and push forward to smash into the front of my enemy effectivley flanking them with my intial attack squads and cleaning up the mess. The wraithlord acts a fire magnet and close combat monster shooting anything with his star cannon while advancing. The farseer dooms units for my banshees to slaughter and guides the shots of my dire avengers. Well that about sums it up any suggestions, flaws in my tatics? units? I really wanted to add harlequins to the army but dunno if they have a place or if I could fit them in... when I eventually get to 1850-2000 point range maybe place them in with a couple of vypers and another wraithlord? Anyhow thanks for readin, cheers mates Last edited by FunkyFellow; 10-23-2007 at 03:03 AM. |
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