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DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-13-2006

ive seen my local store copy and its a slightly more extreme version of the marine book, with a bestiary and army list. though all the rules and wargear for each unit is described in the bestiary with just points costs and profiles listed in the main list.

also the book is too white for my tastes.

but ive very nearly become corrupted, with those brilliant new models and cool new weapons/rules... but my will is strong and i shall not turn from nurgles grasp

hairyyahoo · 11-13-2006

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Originally Posted by Inquisitor Rosenadel

Another cool thing I read about the Codex itself is that each unit has it's own page! An enitre page devoted to Farseers, another to Warlocks, another Howling Banshees, etc.! And the Codex is reported to be twice the last one's size! I like the direction GW took with this because for fluff people like me, this is a gold mine!

This seems to be the curent in thing at GW at the mo and good on 'em for it. Most of the recent WH army books are following the same line, and it seems to indicate the revival of fluff in the games systems.

And yea did GW return the fluff to the masses! And it was good.

hairyyahoo · 11-19-2006

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Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

fair enough but ap1 = no save and it pins! which the other weapon doesnt do.

no but is does pin the other way, ie. to the ground, bleeding

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-19-2006

im afraid youve lost me... i dont even recall posting in this thread. let me reacclimatize myself...

Killermoose · 11-19-2006

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Originally Posted by hairyyahoo

no but is does pin the other way, ie. to the ground, bleeding

Which I personally think works much, much better than scaring the enemy.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-19-2006

decapitation and dismemberment ahs a habit of scaring people more than a dice roll that threatens to remove a piece of white metal from a wooden table, yes

hairyyahoo · 11-20-2006

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Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

decapitation and dismemberment ahs a habit of scaring people more than a dice roll that threatens to remove a piece of white metal from a wooden table, yes

my point exactly. chance to hit, chance to wound, chance of a failed save, chance of a failed pinning test. too many chances for things to go wrong. much prefer killing the enemy as a method of stopping them from moving at me.

Levin · 11-20-2006

I perfer a codex that actually has a wargear section... New Eldar book is cool and all, but it's a pain to have to look up what every single thing does by flipping back and forth.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-20-2006

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Originally Posted by hairyyahoo

much prefer killing the enemy as a method of stopping them from moving at me.

its confirmed people: Hairyyahoo is also crazy

i prefer a wargear section, though i think a seperate besitary and army list come out on top as to what id rather see. and its noce to see that GW has finally realised this is what a lot of people want. Damn those horrid 3rd edition army books with no background

Killermoose · 11-20-2006

Is this the first time they've actually paid attention to us loyal gamers?

Inquisitor Rosenadel · 11-20-2006

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Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

its confirmed people: Hairyyahoo is also crazy

i prefer a wargear section, though i think a seperate besitary and army list come out on top as to what id rather see. and its noce to see that GW has finally realised this is what a lot of people want. Damn those horrid 3rd edition army books with no background

actually, I think Hairyyahoo's advice is quite sound in regards to dealing with mobile enemies that are advancing in your direction.

Anyway, I didn't realize that the wargear for each unit was on the unit page. That sucks! Flipping back and forth like that would have me being a crazy madman! Although I imagine that it helps when you're making the army list because you don't have to flip back to the beginning to see points costs for wargear and such.

hairyyahoo · 11-21-2006

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Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

its confirmed people: Hairyyahoo is also crazy

i prefer a wargear section, though i think a seperate besitary and army list come out on top as to what id rather see. and its noce to see that GW has finally realised this is what a lot of people want. Damn those horrid 3rd edition army books with no background

yep, nuttier than a dozen fruit cakes!

3rd ed army panphlets is how i think of them. was checking out the dark eldar codex and comparing it to the new eldar one and its like 1/3 the size! i'm wondering if GW are gonna try this wargear layout with other codex books, i really can't see it workin with guard or orks, or (gods forbit) chaos!

Dan296 · 11-23-2006

erg..i hate the 3rd edition books...they SUCK. but back to the real point, the wargear sections have to be different in all of the books, because eldar have specific ones for each unit, like exarch powers and such, while chaos champions and HQ can take all of the available wargear, but tyranids have different points for each type of unit using the biomorph/bioweapon/whatever.

MarksmanCypher · 11-23-2006

They won't try it with Chaos. The only thing that they might try and do is expand on each of the god-specific sections.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-23-2006

though GW is going for the seperate bestiary/army list sections, as seen in the marine, BT and eldar books. also the warhammer ones are looking a bit better now. the orc army book even has adecent history section now

hairyyahoo · 11-24-2006

it is nice to be gettin back to the 2nd ed format, where the codex contains all the info you could ever want about that specific army. something else i'd like to see is an expanded hobby section and a bit about tactics like they did in some of the 3rd ed books.

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-24-2006

it was mostly the warhammer books that had the tactics section. i remember the khemri book had one, but the recent ones dont seem to

hairyyahoo · 11-24-2006

many of the 3rd ed codeces had a tactics section too, albeit a single page with a setup for attack and 1 for defence. could easily be expanded to give new players some insight into the army

DeAd_cOmMaNdO · 11-24-2006

oh you mean that little piece that would be in the colour section? hardly tactics, but back in the dawn of 3rd edition i did find the marine version of that semi-useful

hairyyahoo · 11-24-2006

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Originally Posted by DeAd_cOmMaNdO

oh you mean that little piece that would be in the colour section? hardly tactics, but back in the dawn of 3rd edition i did find the marine version of that semi-useful

granted it wasn't an exaustive resource but if expanded it could come in handy

Perturabo · 11-27-2006

I noticed that WD has started running a series called Tactica,supposedly its going to cover all genres and all aspects-army building, deployment, attack and defence etc.
Whether it turns out to be any good we will see or will it turn out to be another sales pitch-"to do this we recommend buying our latest release the...."

hairyyahoo · 11-28-2006

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Originally Posted by Perturabo

I noticed that WD has started running a series called Tactica,supposedly its going to cover all genres and all aspects-army building, deployment, attack and defence etc.
Whether it turns out to be any good we will see or will it turn out to be another sales pitch-"to do this we recommend buying our latest release the...."

WD UK has run tactica sections in the past which were fairly handy. one in particular, written by a yorkshireman of rotund proportions, had me laughing so hard my butt nearly fell off! he titled it "how to loose at warhammer" and it was basically a rundown of the mistakes he and many other players make during the course of a game, and how to avoid them.

the trouble is that a comprihensive tactical discourse will take up 4-5 articles per game system, broken down into sections on deployment, movement, shooting, close combat and (for fantasy) magic. this means that you may need to wait over a year (12-15 issues) to get the complete tactica for a given game. something tells me they won't do 4-5 issues on Warhammer all together then move on to 40k, but instead jump back and forth from system to system.

do i need a bath or do i smell a scheme to sell more copy?

Dan296 · 11-29-2006

o yea i remember that 'how to lose' article. very funny, yet very useful! ive found it can be applied to 40k as well as warhammer (economy of force)

but for a change, could people ease up on WD? yes theres been 'troubles' in the past but maybe this will actually be big articles that are actually be useful. it could happen! you never know!

hairyyahoo · 12-01-2006

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Originally Posted by Dan296

o yea i remember that 'how to lose' article. very funny, yet very useful! ive found it can be applied to 40k as well as warhammer (economy of force)

but for a change, could people ease up on WD? yes theres been 'troubles' in the past but maybe this will actually be big articles that are actually be useful. it could happen! you never know!

ok, i'll ease up on the dwarf bashing for a bit. actually, what i'm beginning to see in the mag is good. slightly better articles, fewer adverts, and a move away from the comic book format they have been using is all good to me.

seriously dude, i need to hear the end of that joke!

Mr Nude · 12-01-2006

Yeah ive read the first two articles covering; choosing your army/army list and second one on deployment, they were handy enough, covering the basics and giving some useful tips. Its still aimed at people starting out or who just started though.

11-20-2006	#38 (permalink)
Levin Trooper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 118 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I perfer a codex that actually has a wargear section... New Eldar book is cool and all, but it's a pain to have to look up what every single thing does by flipping back and forth. __________________ "Vengence is Mine..."

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Killermoose The Ruler of Earth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Good old England! Posts: 1,059 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 19 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Is this the first time they've actually paid attention to us loyal gamers? __________________ By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's, I mean. - Mark Twain

11-23-2006	#43 (permalink)
Dan296 The Dark Apostle Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 36 Posts	erg..i hate the 3rd edition books...they SUCK. but back to the real point, the wargear sections have to be different in all of the books, because eldar have specific ones for each unit, like exarch powers and such, while chaos champions and HQ can take all of the available wargear, but tyranids have different points for each type of unit using the biomorph/bioweapon/whatever. __________________ I am a leaf on the wind Watch how i soar

11-23-2006	#44 (permalink)
MarksmanCypher Trooper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 111 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	They won't try it with Chaos. The only thing that they might try and do is expand on each of the god-specific sections. __________________ Lurking in the Shadows of 40k Terra.

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Perturabo Tyrant of Moray Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Eye Of Terror Posts: 1,273 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 19 Thanked 97 Times in 45 Posts Blog Entries: 4	I noticed that WD has started running a series called Tactica,supposedly its going to cover all genres and all aspects-army building, deployment, attack and defence etc. Whether it turns out to be any good we will see or will it turn out to be another sales pitch-"to do this we recommend buying our latest release the...." __________________ the_iron_warriors@yahoo.co.uk Experts in Siege Works....we also do Patios and Drives Pre heresy Terminator Squad for sale

11-13-2006	#31 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	ive seen my local store copy and its a slightly more extreme version of the marine book, with a bestiary and army list. though all the rules and wargear for each unit is described in the bestiary with just points costs and profiles listed in the main list. also the book is too white for my tastes. but ive very nearly become corrupted, with those brilliant new models and cool new weapons/rules... but my will is strong and i shall not turn from nurgles grasp

11-19-2006	#34 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	im afraid youve lost me... i dont even recall posting in this thread. let me reacclimatize myself...

11-19-2006	#36 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	decapitation and dismemberment ahs a habit of scaring people more than a dice roll that threatens to remove a piece of white metal from a wooden table, yes

11-23-2006	#45 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	though GW is going for the seperate bestiary/army list sections, as seen in the marine, BT and eldar books. also the warhammer ones are looking a bit better now. the orc army book even has adecent history section now

11-24-2006	#47 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	it was mostly the warhammer books that had the tactics section. i remember the khemri book had one, but the recent ones dont seem to

11-24-2006	#49 (permalink)
DeAd_cOmMaNdO Conscript Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 5 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 88 Thanked 62 Times in 69 Posts Blog Entries: 5	oh you mean that little piece that would be in the colour section? hardly tactics, but back in the dawn of 3rd edition i did find the marine version of that semi-useful

11-29-2006	#53 (permalink)
Dan296 The Dark Apostle Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,691 Rep Power: 2 Thanks: 14 Thanked 67 Times in 36 Posts	o yea i remember that 'how to lose' article. very funny, yet very useful! ive found it can be applied to 40k as well as warhammer (economy of force) but for a change, could people ease up on WD? yes theres been 'troubles' in the past but maybe this will actually be big articles that are actually be useful. it could happen! you never know! __________________ I am a leaf on the wind Watch how i soar

12-01-2006	#55 (permalink)
Mr Nude Trooper Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Dublin Posts: 53 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Yeah ive read the first two articles covering; choosing your army/army list and second one on deployment, they were handy enough, covering the basics and giving some useful tips. Its still aimed at people starting out or who just started though.