Harlequins - 40K Terra

FunkyFellow · 10-22-2007

Ello ello, Well I've been pondering this since I started planning my eldar army and have been scouring the internet for answers but to no avail (maybe I did'nt look hard enough). The question is if a eldar army is so specialized, whats the harlequins role? What type of units are they most effective against? What kind of tatica involves there use? I've really wanted to place them in my army but don't know where they would fit in if it all in the scheme of things... I really like there look and love the fluff on them, anyone wana impart there experiances with them or any advice?

Cheers mates

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

I'm not so sure, but I generally see them going against command squads or light armor due to the harlequins kiss and the fusion guns.

Mart007 · 10-23-2007

Marine Killers!!!! that is what they are for. But you cannot assign them a wave serpent, some take 6 in a Falcon and some footslog, they are very weak in every department except close combat on a charge, they will rip a Marine Squad to shreds.

Krom_stormbrow · 10-23-2007

I can vouch for that. Nothing a bit of bolter fire can't deal with.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

So basically, get them into combat and get them there FAST. One shot ponies, rather like IG rough riders?

Drax · 10-23-2007

ooh, good pun Erus!

essentially, get in before you get shot (remembering you aren't slowed by difficult terrain - so use cover), kill before you get killed.

or die - yes even with a shadowseer

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

So.. Would a falcon be the best way to do this in say, terrain sparse environment? Most players at my local shop are fairly stingy on terrain (except for a GK player I was against the other day, pleasant surprise!).

experiment 626 · 10-23-2007

always take the harlie kiss upgrade for the rending which will shred mostly anything on a day! you could go a power toy on the troop leader... just in case your rending rolls aren't coming that day, you at least still have a few 'no armour save' attacks.
also, while it's the coolest eldar model imho, never, ever take the death jester! you don't want to shoot with harlies - you want to fleet instead.

as pointed out, harlies ignor cover so always stick to cover. that shadowseer will protect you from pretty much any enemy fire untill you hit the 12" range... considering your charge range of 13"-18", you shouldn't get shoot at much untill after you've made your first assault...

a falcon can carry upto 6 harlies and will really annoy your opponent!

cheers!

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

good to know. Just trying to gather info to pass along to the missus.

So.. 6 harlies... Shadow Seer and Troupe leader included, a falcon with (blank) and harlequin kisses all around?

Drax · 10-23-2007

and death jester if you can squeeze him in, always nice to have a heavy weapon functioning as an assault weapon

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by Celephus Drax

and death jester if you can squeeze him in, always nice to have a heavy weapon functioning as an assault weapon

Heavy weapon functioning as assault? Huh?

Drax · 10-23-2007

the shuriken sheiker cannon carried by the DJ is assault 3 rather than heavy 3, albeit with a reduced range IIRC

Mart007 · 10-23-2007

Yeah the Shadow Seer isnt that reliable really, though very useful. Basically you have Veil of tears that means the opponent has to roll 2xD6 x2 for range if out of range that unit may not shoot anything that turn.

Either I have been really unlucky with that or everytime someone rolls it they are always in flippin range and with a 5+ invuln your going down!

One thing I will say you dont need a full squad 10 to be devastating.

Lord Commander Erus · 10-23-2007

Assault indeed.. It's a storm bolter on crack! Sweet!

SteveBerenyi · 10-23-2007

Stay tuned as my harlie tactica will be posted today, but from what i can see, the Death jester is not useless. Assualt 3 is nothing to laugh at and you need not always fleet with them

Mart007 · 10-23-2007

I was talking about veil of tears, everyone says how good it is, but I cant think of a time when it has actually worked!

PS I look forward to the tactica!

experiment 626 · 10-23-2007

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Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus

good to know. Just trying to gather info to pass along to the missus.

So.. 6 harlies... Shadow Seer and Troupe leader included, a falcon with (blank) and harlequin kisses all around?

the only time/s that the whole 6 + falcon won't work well is missions using escalation or which force your harlies and falcon into reserves...
thus, for the harlies to truck-in in style, you need to pass both reserve rolls for each seperate unit that turn.

i tend to look at harlies as a shock/terror unit. everyone fears them, mainly due to their rending attacks. just throw them into the fray and your opponent will go to insane lengths just to kill them! of corse, they'll be so focused on the clowns that they'll likely ignore at least half your army in the meantime!

cheers!

FunkyFellow · 10-23-2007

Thanks for all the replies guys, so it looks like harlies rip apart infantry and if equiped right light vehicles eh? hmmm wonder how'd they compliment my banshees... anyhow

cheers mates

hairyyahoo · 10-24-2007

just aim them at a termie unit or IC with command squad and have fun

Mart007 · 10-24-2007

Quote:

shock/terror unit

well said Stitch, also if you footslog them any Marine player will point every gun on them before they reach cc so can draw fire in allowing other things to do great things easier!

Biadetic · 12-06-2007

/bump ^^

i love the harlequin models ! one of top favs !
also, eldar wraithlord model i think is awesome too !!!

just thought id say....

lol

10-22-2007	#1 (permalink)
FunkyFellow Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton,Canada Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Harlequins Ello ello, Well I've been pondering this since I started planning my eldar army and have been scouring the internet for answers but to no avail (maybe I did'nt look hard enough). The question is if a eldar army is so specialized, whats the harlequins role? What type of units are they most effective against? What kind of tatica involves there use? I've really wanted to place them in my army but don't know where they would fit in if it all in the scheme of things... I really like there look and love the fluff on them, anyone wana impart there experiances with them or any advice? Cheers mates

10-23-2007	#2 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	I'm not so sure, but I generally see them going against command squads or light armor due to the harlequins kiss and the fusion guns. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Krom_stormbrow Hairy Hunter Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: York, North Yorkshire, UK Posts: 506 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 25 Thanked 37 Times in 27 Posts	I can vouch for that. Nothing a bit of bolter fire can't deal with. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	So basically, get them into combat and get them there FAST. One shot ponies, rather like IG rough riders? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	So.. Would a falcon be the best way to do this in say, terrain sparse environment? Most players at my local shop are fairly stingy on terrain (except for a GK player I was against the other day, pleasant surprise!). __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-23-2007	#3 (permalink)
Mart007 Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 105 Thanked 83 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Marine Killers!!!! that is what they are for. But you cannot assign them a wave serpent, some take 6 in a Falcon and some footslog, they are very weak in every department except close combat on a charge, they will rip a Marine Squad to shreds.

10-23-2007	#8 (permalink)
experiment 626 Filthy, Dirty Radical Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: lost in a blizzard, somewhere near toronto! Posts: 2,732 Rep Power: 4 Thanks: 20 Thanked 188 Times in 139 Posts	always take the harlie kiss upgrade for the rending which will shred mostly anything on a day! you could go a power toy on the troop leader... just in case your rending rolls aren't coming that day, you at least still have a few 'no armour save' attacks. also, while it's the coolest eldar model imho, never, ever take the death jester! you don't want to shoot with harlies - you want to fleet instead. as pointed out, harlies ignor cover so always stick to cover. that shadowseer will protect you from pretty much any enemy fire untill you hit the 12" range... considering your charge range of 13"-18", you shouldn't get shoot at much untill after you've made your first assault... a falcon can carry upto 6 harlies and will really annoy your opponent! cheers! __________________ "Who are you to question my methods?! A 'Puritan' is simply a coward who hides behind a veil of pretended faith and denounces his loyal brother as a traitor out of simple jealousy!" - Inquisitor Odion To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-23-2007	#9 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	good to know. Just trying to gather info to pass along to the missus. So.. 6 harlies... Shadow Seer and Troupe leader included, a falcon with (blank) and harlequin kisses all around? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-23-2007	#13 (permalink)
Mart007 Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 105 Thanked 83 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	Yeah the Shadow Seer isnt that reliable really, though very useful. Basically you have Veil of tears that means the opponent has to roll 2xD6 x2 for range if out of range that unit may not shoot anything that turn. Either I have been really unlucky with that or everytime someone rolls it they are always in flippin range and with a 5+ invuln your going down! One thing I will say you dont need a full squad 10 to be devastating.

10-23-2007	#14 (permalink)
Lord Commander Erus The Phoenician Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 6,324 Rep Power: 6 Thanks: 172 Thanked 316 Times in 217 Posts Blog Entries: 3	Assault indeed.. It's a storm bolter on crack! Sweet! __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. That which causes us trials shall yield us triumph, and that which makes our hearts ache shall fill us with gladness. For the only true happiness is to learn, to advance and to improve. None of this could happen without rejecting error, ignorance, and imperfection. We must pass out of the darkness to reach the light.' - The Primarch Fulgrim, Attainment of Perfection Tutorials: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

10-23-2007	#15 (permalink)
SteveBerenyi I Have A Fish In My Pants Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Butte, Montana Posts: 2,601 Rep Power: 3 Thanks: 207 Thanked 246 Times in 158 Posts Blog Entries: 5	Stay tuned as my harlie tactica will be posted today, but from what i can see, the Death jester is not useless. Assualt 3 is nothing to laugh at and you need not always fleet with them __________________ WIN/DRAW/LOSS On The Battlefield 4 / 1 / 4 VOTE To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Ends April 22 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Ends April 24 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PLEASE VOTE!!!

10-23-2007	#16 (permalink)
Mart007 Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,025 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 105 Thanked 83 Times in 68 Posts Blog Entries: 1	I was talking about veil of tears, everyone says how good it is, but I cant think of a time when it has actually worked! PS I look forward to the tactica!

10-23-2007	#18 (permalink)
FunkyFellow Primer Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton,Canada Posts: 26 Rep Power: 0 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for all the replies guys, so it looks like harlies rip apart infantry and if equiped right light vehicles eh? hmmm wonder how'd they compliment my banshees... anyhow cheers mates

12-06-2007	#21 (permalink)
Biadetic Corporal Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Belfast, N. Ireland Posts: 316 Rep Power: 1 Thanks: 17 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	/bump ^^ i love the harlequin models ! one of top favs ! also, eldar wraithlord model i think is awesome too !!! just thought id say.... lol __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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