About charges and short route

[Luisjoey]

The other day i was playing against chaos (im space marines)

i had a dreadnought and my opponent about 2" away from me; it his turn and he is about to assault... then he is in front of me but he moved around my dreadnought to be in the rear part (still 12 but close to other guys of my army)





Shouldn´t the charges must be in straight line? that is the closest route to my oponent? (the green line) or he can take the Red arrow?


Maybe a dull question but i need support for this answer and thanks in advance.

[Sir_Servo]

As the rules state the two models that are closest to each other need to make base to base combat first and must move the shortest amount of distance in order to acomplish this. However the rest of the squad would then be able to move up to their charge range, usually 6", as long as they end in base to base with the enemy then yes they can move to the rear. Remember that they will only hit front armour on Dread until it becomes Imobilized.

Hope that helps and if you need me to explain in more clearly just let me know,
Servo

[Luisjoey]

But if it is a single creature, in this case a demon prince and not a squat, it is able to do such thing and go around?

Thanks for the preview answer

[Sir_Servo]

If it is a single model (Independant character, Monsterous Creature, other Dread, etc. etc.) than the only way they could get to the rear is if they move around your dread in the movement phase and then assault, but if they start the assault in front of the Dread, then they have to charge the front. I will grab my BBB and see if I can't find specific page number for you to show your oppenant.

Servo


+++EDIT+++
Page 37 of the BBB (big black book if you didn't know that is a common name for the 40k rule book). Carefully read through the Move Charging Units section. It states in there that they must move "using the shortest possible route"

[Luisjoey]

thanks a lot my friend, and please if you could support me with this ruling.

[Sir_Servo]

No worries man! I have been a pretty hardcore Tournament player for a good number of years and there isn't much that escapes me now a days. *shuders at the thought of mastering a whole new rules set*

Any who, if you have any more questions just feel free to post them and I am sure that if I am not on one of the other Vets around here can help you out.

Servo

Oh and loved the picture made every thing much easier.

[Luisjoey]

thank you a lot brother! you`re great

[Rhaalidor]

Originally Posted by Sir_Servo

*shuders at the thought of mastering a whole new rules set*

Servo

Yeah, more rules changes. Yippee. Just what I need. It took me three years to get a handle on 4th edition.

[Luisjoey]

LOL! new rules to prevent people boring from the game

[Spartan-11755]

IT does not matter if you assault the rear of a dreadnaught as they are spinning around in Close Combat so hits always count towards the front armour. Hope that this helps abit.

At least he didn't pull the damned Conga line of stupid......

but I think that its really cheap what he did and you should smack him

I do not condone violence >.>