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Old 11-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
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So I'm planning on having 3 Defilers for Apoc battles. Is there any way I can give them the special rules used with Basilisk batteries (the spotting round)?
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using the BASALISK sheet for DEFILERS=nope
the datafax kinda have to be used as is
you can ask the game orginizer if thats ok though.

it wouldnt really make sense, because defilers are deamon engines and it doesnt seem like they would work together
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using the BASALISK sheet for DEFILERS=nope
the datafax kinda have to be used as is
you can ask the game orginizer if thats ok though.

it wouldnt really make sense, because defilers are deamon engines and it doesnt seem like they would work together
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Well, if I don't use the Defiler formation, I can still use the Linebreaker or Armored Spearhead formation, correct?
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Well, if I don't use the Defiler formation, I can still use the Linebreaker or Armored Spearhead formation, correct?
I don't see why not, in all honesty.
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i was of the same opinion, but as i dont have access to the Apoc book i did not want to speak up.
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yea you definatly could.
some of the imperial sheets used by chaos that ive seen:
iron warriors baneblade
iron warriors basalisk battery
khorne armoured spearhead (full of possesed +kharn?...omg that was so cool...and bloody..)
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What the heck is a Thunderbird?
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i think it is a chaos thunderhawk...
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Default Re: Apoc Defiler battery rules

Wow. Completely forgot about this thread (and the Thunderhawk, thank heavens) but I'm wondering if a Defiler formation could be done know using the blank Apoc datasheet? Hey, anyone wanna help with this, maybe be we could put it in the Inquisitor?
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Default Re: Apoc Defiler battery rules

i could see three defilers chained together force to cooperate by some sort of chaos tech marine or sorcerer. he would have to stay within 12" of the lead defiler to allow them spotting rounds or they break formation on a 5+. that might be really cool
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i could see three defilers chained together force to cooperate by some sort of chaos tech marine or sorcerer. he would have to stay within 12" of the lead defiler to allow them spotting rounds or they break formation on a 5+. that might be really cool
Hmmm. Controlled by a Dark Adeptus. Interesting.
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here ya go try this

DEFILER COVENANT

POINTS: 75 + models

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1+ chaos sorcerer, renegade tech marine or iron warriors HQ and 3+ defilers

SPEACIAL RULES

Strike force: all units in the formation must be deployed within 12" of each other

unruly: if at the start of the players turn the unit of chosen is not within 6" of at least 1 one the defilers in the formation they may attempt to break away and act independently on a d6 roll of 5+they break the formation and go on to create mayhem

spotting rounds: the unit benefits form spotting rounds as written in the apoc book on page 109
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here ya go try this

DEFILER COVENANT

POINTS: 75 + models

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1+ units of chosen(dark apostles) and 3+ defilers

SPEACIAL RULES

Strike force: all units in the formation must be deployed within 12" of each other

unruly: if at the start of the players turn the unit of chosen is not within 6" of at least 1 one the defilers in the formation they may attempt to break away and act independently on a d6 roll of 5+they break the formation and go on to create mayhem

spotting rounds: the unit benefits form spotting rounds as written in the apoc book on page 109
Not bad! I love the ideal.
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Default Re: Apoc Defiler battery rules

not sure about the chosen idea. i think a sorceror would bit the theme a bit more, using psychic powers/rituals to control the beasts. maybe modify the aspiring sorc from the thousand sons entry and have one per defiler, and as long as all sorcs are in base to base contact with each other (chanting n stuff) the defilers are controlled other wise they do their own thing on a 4+.
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not sure about the chosen idea. i think a sorceror would bit the theme a bit more, using psychic powers/rituals to control the beasts. maybe modify the aspiring sorc from the thousand sons entry and have one per defiler, and as long as all sorcs are in base to base contact with each other (chanting n stuff) the defilers are controlled other wise they do their own thing on a 4+.
Yeah, sorcerers would probably be a better choice. Or a Dark Adeptus techmarine?
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ya i thought so to but with the points cost of a sorcerer and his longest range weapon being 18" it seemed a bit to expensive. i was think o the chosen as a group o adepts kited out for long range. i guess it would work with just usin any HQ, makes more fluff seance
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here ya go try this

DEFILER COVENANT

POINTS: 75 + models

"suitable fluff (its early)"

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1+ units of chosen(dark apostles) and 3+ defilers

SPEACIAL RULES

Strike force: all units in the formation must be deployed within 12" of each other

unruly: if at the start of the players turn the unit of chosen is not within 6" of at least 1 one the defilers in the formation they may attempt to break away and act independently on a d6 roll of 5+they break the formation and go on to create mayhem

spotting rounds: the unit benefits form spotting rounds as written in the apoc book on page 109
sounds like a good idea but like others said maybe a sorcerer per defiler would work with maybe a unit or 2 of havocs for support...as long as the deamon engines dont move then you have your long range defense

just my $.02
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Yeah, sorcerers would probably be a better choice. Or a Dark Adeptus techmarine?
I think the Dark Adeptus techmarine would be best. Just hope my brother does not see this, lol
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Hmm. I might try to create Defiler battery rules using the blank Apoc datasheet.
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Default Re: Apoc Defiler battery rules

hey dragoon king if you are going to make that apocalypse formation why dont you make the option for a brass scorp as a squadron command?
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hey dragoon king if you are going to make that apocalypse formation why dont you make the option for a brass scorp as a squadron command?
Could be interesting, as could the new Soulgrinder thing. If I were to model the formation, I'd go with a Chaos techmarine (just because I wanna see one). Gotta fix my printer, it's been acting up, so I'll print off the sheet and work on it ASAP.
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