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Blog Entries: 5 | ![]() or ![]() Two variants of a VDR vehicle I created for the Black Saints as a mobile command center. There are exactly 16 veteran marines who rule the chapter. 16 because the number of praetorian guard (the only accurate/official count) was 16 cohorts, roughly 16K troops. So, 16 veteran marines leading the Chapter. 10 of them are all in a Veteran Squad (game play wise) and 3 are the more powerful/heads of the chapter (Chaplain, Librarian, Master.. rather like the Triumvirates Rome had). Each of the 'big three' has a equerry, a second in command/voice that is drawn from the same corps as them (big 3 = master, master of sanctity, epistolary. equerry's = codicer, lieutenant/captain/whatever, and epistolary). Hence why the two structure points were used (to indicate the staggering size of the mobile chapel/command centre, and to house 16 marines), and why the transport capacity was maxed. I also gave it the weapons I did as I was thinking.. 'Hmmm.. Lets make it a land Raider Crusader on crack crossed with a Storm Sword!!!' Very open to ideas, c&c, etc...Also, which version is best you think?
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Blog Entries: 5 | I still like mine better erus, simpler and well, it is mine. lacking that option i'll take the one with 2 void shields.
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Blog Entries: 5 | I may add in the twin linked gatling autocannon, or make it co-axial to a weapon or something, it is a good all around gun. As it stands, this is basically a little stronger than a Thunder Hawk armament wise (imho) and armored wise, far stronger.
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Blog Entries: 5 | True, but the thunder hawk has the benefit of being a Flyer/Orbital lander. this is just a fire magnet. It will die and die horribly.
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Blog Entries: 1 | Feth Erus! What can't this kill? Short of a Terminus or Titan, what can kill it?! I'm inclined to think that you should lose a few weapons. |
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Blog Entries: 5 | I suppose I could downgrade the plasma to non titan-killer, and possibly loose the demolisher for the gatlin autocannon?
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Yeah, that thing is just a bit overpowered.
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Blog Entries: 5 | Eh... It's not that much worse than a thunderhawk or stormsword really.
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Blog Entries: 5 | I know it's crazy... I just want opinions... This tank is actually the command center for the Black Saints on their homeworld of Sentarus. They have no dedicated structure (beyond the Coliseum, their monastery where they indoctrinate the recruits, etc..) beyond this.. So I chose 6 structure points to make it HUGE to represent that.. The idea for the guns was this is a shock assault vehicle. It rolls up blasting all kinds of DAKKA.... And things die. See the attached PDF....
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Blog Entries: 1 | I like the second version. Are you actually gonna build this thing?
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Blog Entries: 5 | That is the intent eventually.
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Blog Entries: 4 | For some reason I see two sets of coaxial gatling vanquisher cannons. and a vulcan megabolter strapped to the front... You want one titan-killer gun on it, but you want a similar rule to the Inferno cannon on the siege dreadnought, i.e every time you fire, roll a d6, on a 1 the weapon overloads and counts as weapon destroyed. Can only fire head on. range 48-72 2 twin heavy bolters, 2 lascannons. Can fire ordnance even if it moves. May not move and fire any other weapons,
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Blog Entries: 5 | Turret vanquisher, and the heavy flamers/ass-can o'd doom are on a spinning sponson mount like the one FW tank, flamer in top, ass-can on bottom.
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Blog Entries: 4 | demolisher cannon and vanquisher cannons are different to my knowledge. The one on the Macharius for example counts as a multiple barrage, so if you give it one gattling set of those (six barrels) you could end up with a max of six ordnance shots from it, scattering for each. Then you have the AT shells where it counts as twinlinked...
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Blog Entries: 1 | Big.. bang.. boom..... it's good, especially in the fact it can kill almost anything =] I gotta say, I hope you do build this thing. It would be such a beatiful sight.. ![]()
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| The Great Wolf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | OK one question to you's guys...what are you smokin and where can I get some...or better yet...why aren't you sharing?... this may be one pretty sucker when it's done...but this is something that's gonna take a bit...and a lot of cash...and time...and cash...and did I mention time...??? and let's not ferget the headaches of design and functionality to make it look like a right proper 40K center piece... PLEASE...don't give him anymore ideas than he already has...we ain't even got the game room up yet and he's got more crap runnin around that head of his than anything else...and you ain't helping guys and gals... ...LMAO
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Blog Entries: 1 | LOL, you do have a lot of projects on the go Erus!! Custom I would concentrate on the games room and the SM Company thats on it 's way first!!
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Blog Entries: 1 | You know what I'd love to see? A wheeled superheavy. That would be awesome. Oh, like the Swampmasher thing from GI Joe, three wheels in a triangle shape. Hmmmm.... Black Legion needs a superheavy..... Curse you Erus and Wolfie! Wow, think about a VTOL flyer transport. Like the V-22 Osprey, but cooler. Would something like that be plausible?
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| The Great Wolf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Well with the VDR your imagination is the limit...as long as you subscribe to the WYSIWYG rules and are able to construct your model to the VDR standards...(that in itself is the hard part)...like I said in my earlier tutorial...build first...then go for the datafax...doing it the other way around is not only harder but much more time consuming...
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Blog Entries: 5 | this will be my 'titan' so to speak.. Once the full models and EVERYTHING else is done with this army.. I will begin this... And it will be epic... And yes Wolfpack.. I blame you, D_C, and Hairy for my madness. Damn you all!
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