Can someone give me the rundown on Ogre Kingdoms?

[Grix]

I figured I would start collecting an Ogre army mainly for fun. Can some one enlighten me on their basic tactics and playing strategy?

[SteveBerenyi]

Basic Strategy:

BE BIGGER THAN ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.

really they have no strategy. high points cost, powerful characters. very fun to paint.

1 Word Though: LEADBELCHERS!

you will love em.

[Grix]

yea that's what I am looking, something fun to collect and paint. another question, how competative can the army be?

[SteveBerenyi]

very if you build it right.

Fantasy is not like 40k. Deployment is everything. you need to have a balanced force and yes HTH is much more prominent in Fantasy.

These are the downsided.
The upside is this:

1. it is much more dificult to win consistently.
2. it is a more rewarding game (tactically)
3. When you have a good group, it is hellaciously fun!

if you let me know where you are starting i may be able to help.

Step 1 get the army book. if you dont have it pm me.

[Grix]

I have the Ogre Kingdoms codex, which is why I was asking.

[SteveBerenyi]

do you have any models yet?

[Lord Commander Erus]

I watch the local fantasy games. Steve is right... Leadbelchers seem to be prominent in OK forces I see, and from what I have gleaned they work nicely.

Steve and Stubber are our fantasy nuts, so look to them for the help.

[Grix]

no models yet

[Lord Commander Erus]

I've heard someone say fantasy was more $$ wise than 40k, and less conversion happy. Hence why i've stayed away from it.

Though, if anything, I've seen ogre armies converted more often than anything else.

[SteveBerenyi]

true, OK armies are usually full of conversions.

Butchers usually.

i find converting in fantasy easy and fun though.

[JoeGuardsman]

I like leadbelchers for the most part but in my experience the people who have success with them use them wrong, because you have to roll to hit and people forget that. I've never had that much sucess with them but they might knock off a very important rank from an opposing unit and as a unit of two they make for good charge bait so that you can utilize one of the strongest rules they have the Gut Charge.
Ogre Kingdoms have two points of view. One type of army is made of big mean units that can break anything, but you will have fewer units on the board. The other is the use of many small units and rely on a strategy of multiple chargers and support.
I prefer the small unit idea. One it allows you to use all of the models in the Ogre Kingdom range. Two it is more flexible. Three it feels more strategic. Four you can utilize more Magic item/Big name combinations.
In this style of army I use only units of 2-4 Ogres and my characters are always alone accomplishing a role that suits their equipment. The must use unit in my opinion are Yhetis absolute must.

[Grix]

I was looking thru the dex and I decided I would take a shot at writing a list. This will be my first attempt at fantasy so any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated.

LORDS

Tyrant- Cathayan longsword, brace of handguns, Beastkiller name, Thundermace, spangleshard, 2x lucky-gnoblers

Slaughtermaster- 2x lucky-gnoblers, jade lion, skullplucker

HEROS

Hunter- 2x sabertusks, Mastodon armor

Butcher- 2x tooth-gnoblers, Bangstick

Butcher- 2x tooth-gnoblers, cookbook

CORE

4x Bulls w/Ironfists, bellower

7x Ironguts, (1 is Gutlord), Bellower, Canibal standar, look-out gnobler

7x Ironguts, (1 is Gutlord), Bellower, Canibal standar, look-out gnobler

24x gnobler fighters

23x gnobler fighters

10x gnoblar hunters

SPECIAL

2x Leadbealchers

2x Leadbealchers

RARE

Slave-Giant

Gorger

that should be pretty close to 2500. and if it is not too good on the war field , They will look great painted.

[SteveBerenyi]

Originally Posted by Grix

I was looking thru the dex and I decided I would take a shot at writing a list. This will be my first attempt at fantasy so any and all feedback will be greatly appreciated.

LORDS

Tyrant- Cathayan longsword, brace of handguns, Beastkiller name, Thundermace, spangleshard, 2x lucky-gnoblers

I'd get rid of either the name or the mace pick one, because their uses dont work well together.

Slaughtermaster- 2x lucky-gnoblers, jade lion, skullplucker

You can only have 1 luck gnobler on him

You can only have 1 lord in 2500 pts

HEROS

Hunter- 2x sabertusks, Mastodon armor

Butcher- 2x tooth-gnoblers, Bangstick

Butcher- 2x tooth-gnoblers, cookbook

CORE

4x Bulls w/Ironfists, bellower

7x Ironguts, (1 is Gutlord), Bellower, Canibal standar, look-out gnobler

7x Ironguts, (1 is Gutlord), Bellower, Canibal standar, look-out gnobler

Only 1 of these units can cary the canibal standard

24x gnobler fighters

23x gnobler fighters

Why the difference in numbers?

10x gnoblar hunters

SPECIAL

2x Leadbealchers

2x Leadbealchers

RARE

Slave-Giant

Gorger

that should be pretty close to 2500. and if it is not too good on the war field , They will look great painted.

Not bad though. just a few tweaks and you have a nice army that will look lovely!

[Stubber]

Originally Posted by Lord Commander Erus.

Steve and Stubber are our fantasy nuts, so look to them for the help.

Well I wouldn't call myself a fantasy nut (I'm still actually fairly new to ye olde type stuff..)

Fear not Grix...you can make the lists and we'll find all the inadequacies in them.

Do you have the latest edition fantasy rulebook?
I really can't see why your fielding gnoblars in units of 23 and 24.
Especially since you need 5 in a rank to get the bonus and gnoblars really need all the rank bonuses and stuff they can get to have any chance in a fight.

EDIT: I'm moving this thread to the designated Ogre Kingdoms section.

[God_Grinder]

looks pritty good to me even out the gnoblars at 25, and drop one of the lords, and maybe get one of the hunter guys with the cats? i myself have n=been thinkin of maybe starting an ogre army they look awsome. its been awile have you started thisd yet?